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post #1 of 8 Old 02-02-2012, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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2 rounds of antibiotics and still excessive urination?

Two years ago I acquired a 15ish year old mare from a bad situation. For the first six months, she wouldn't even look at me straight on, and even now, two years later, she has come a long way, but I think she will always have trust issues. About four months ago, she began excessive urinating... at first I thought it was due to the presence of a gelding who was in the pasture for a few months, and that she was cycling. My vet did blood work which showed elevated white blood cells, and treated her with three weeks of antibiotics. The mare showed some improvement, but was not back to normal. We did another round of antibiotics and I have seen no improvement. Her back legs and tail stay wet with urine - the process of washing her back legs is very stressful for her so I have abandoned that idea. She has lost a noticeable amount of weight, especially along the top of her back. She is fed Purina Senior feed and has hay available 24/7.

My vet has suggested that it is possible the mare has stones, and treatment would most likely be expensive. Quite frankly, I am just about out of money after the expense of raising an rejected foal who had his own medical issues. I have done some research online and am wondering if Cushings Disease could be a possibility? I appreciate any input from those of you who might have some experience with a similar problem.
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Can you have a urinalysis done? That should give the vet a better idea of just how high the possibility of stones is. Also, according to my handy-dandy horse health book, apparently stones in the baldder and urethra can be palpated.

As for cushings -- I have never heard of frequent urination being a symptom, nor is it mentioned in my reference material. Does she have any other symptoms of cushings? What is her coat like? Does she have fatty deposits?
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UTI maybe?

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I had a mare that had cushing she urinated alot as in her stall was totally wet she was skinny and had the hair coat that never shed out. We tested her so i know she was cushings. So its possible she has cushings or it could be something else.I would get the vet out and find out whats going on.
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My vet did palpate the mare the first time she came out and didn't feel any stones but now thinks they might have developed. Her coat is really coarse and thick, but it was last winter too. This past summer she was slick and while not shiny, very normal looking.
Northern Mama, I agree I need to collect a urine sample and let my vet analyze it.
Thanks for the input; I'll update when I have more news.
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Have you been monitoring her water intake?

While more common in stalled horses, some horses may drink excessively because they are bored. In this case the urine will be almost clear.
If this is not the case it does sound like her kidneys are in some trouble, stones or not. An easy way to get an idea if it is stones or not is monitor the colour of her urine before and after exercise. If there is blood in the urine post exercise, it can be from the stones bouncing around.

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Can you have a urinalysis done? That should give the vet a better idea of just how high the possibility of stones is. Also, according to my handy-dandy horse health book, apparently stones in the baldder and urethra can be palpated.

As for cushings -- I have never heard of frequent urination being a symptom, nor is it mentioned in my reference material. Does she have any other symptoms of cushings? What is her coat like? Does she have fatty deposits?
Excessive drinking is a symptom of cushings and when you have excessive drinking you in turn will most likely have excessive urnination.

At her age it is possible that she has cushings.

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My vet did palpate the mare the first time she came out and didn't feel any stones but now thinks they might have developed. Her coat is really coarse and thick, but it was last winter too. This past summer she was slick and while not shiny, very normal looking.
Northern Mama, I agree I need to collect a urine sample and let my vet analyze it.
Thanks for the input; I'll update when I have more news.
The description of your horses hair coat is classic cushings then add the urination problem........I would say your horse has cushings.

The weight loss you mention is also classic of cushings so is the lack of muscle.

I think you need to get a second opinion as your vet does not seem to recognize the classic most basic signs of cushings.


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