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    06-04-2012, 10:15 AM
  #31
Trained
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Originally Posted by Rascaholic    
I was taught any baby emergency calls for the fastest, most professional, and knowledgeable opinion and treatment option you can get!
Yup, what is a minor worry or a wait and see in an adult, can be a potential killer for a baby, universally true across most species.
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    06-04-2012, 11:40 AM
  #32
Foal
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
As you have only owned this mare and colt for a month and already cannot afford vet care (after claiming vets refused to come out, I might add) yes I think the slaughter house might have been a better option.

Glad that the little guy is coming around, but you really need to rethink this a little.
That was so rude. I don't know if all Americans think horses are better off slaughtered than saved, but we certainly don't think so in England.
     
    06-04-2012, 11:58 AM
  #33
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Livvyx    
That was so rude. I don't know if all Americans think horses are better off slaughtered than saved, but we certainly don't think so in England.

Saying ALL Americans and speaking for ALL Englishmen is kind of, um, naive don't you think?

We all have differing opinions. However, the point Alex was trying to make is that, if sent to slaughter, the horse is killed and released of pain. It's over for them. If they are "rescued" by someone who doesn't know what they are doing, they suffer for long periods of time and THEN die. Not glamorous.

I do not believe Alex was saying this is true of ALL rescues. When done properly, the vet bills taken into account and the proper care given, rescue is a beautiful thing. Of course. But when done flippantly, or without proper thought given to the COSTS, these "rescues" can do a LOT more harm than good.

In the future, try not to think of it as an All or Nothing situation. There are varying degrees of rescues, how good they are or how bad they are. Just like everything else in this world. Rarely ever is there black and white.
     
    06-04-2012, 11:59 AM
  #34
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Originally Posted by Livvyx    
That was so rude. I don't know if all Americans think horses are better off slaughtered than saved, but we certainly don't think so in England.
The truth is not always attractive, and just because it is not, don;t misconstrue it for "rude".
Perhaps you don't have the oversupply there that we have here. Would you rather they starve? What would be your suggestion? I am not trying to start the whole slaughter debate here, but really. And-please don't generalize and say "ALL Americans"....anything. It would be like me saying ALL Brits.......etc.
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    06-04-2012, 12:04 PM
  #35
Green Broke
I really don't think any of you Guys were rude, just being honest...

All of us on here have seen WAY too much of this go on around here. -new first time horse owner buys horse, horse gets sick, goes lame, etc. and they are on here asking for our advise. We give them ours which is usually 'get a vet out' and then the excuses start flowing. 'vet won't come out, he's on vacation, I tried calling several vets with no answeres' :rolls eyes:

Bottom line. I have never heard a vet tell anyone that they are not coming out and just tell you to do the shots yourself. Horse owning is certainly not cheap and as AlexS said we all worry about huge expenses that may pop up. But With something as little as this, I'm sorry to say that you shouldn't own a horse at this point. The foals vet care is so small of an expense in the big picture..

And Livvxy AlexS was not being rude anywhere in her post. Over here in the US we have a huge problem with slaughter. People go to the auctions and buy the horses on death row and think they're helping them out by 'saving them'. But when said horse gets sick they don't know what to do and can't afford vet care. So in the long run the horse would go through alot less suffering if he just went to slaughter rather then being deathly ill while this person cat afford the proper vet care, food, etc that it needs. Even though both would be considered suffering its alot less so to just send the horse through slaughter then let it wait out its days and die because of some niave person.

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    06-04-2012, 12:16 PM
  #36
Showing
Vets seem to want to play the "wait and see" game. I need one rather promply as my horse was down and in trouble. Called the vet. Got the wait and see line. Called a horse friend and she told me to be more forthright. I was. I called the vet and Told him to get his F....g Ass out here right now. He was here within 40 min, not bad considering the 25 min drive. Horse was treated and made a full recovery. When a vet has a mixed practise of large and small animal, there's more money in the pets that come to the clinic that a road trip.
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    06-04-2012, 12:22 PM
  #37
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Vets seem to want to play the "wait and see" game. I need one rather promply as my horse was down and in trouble. Called the vet. Got the wait and see line. Called a horse friend and she told me to be more forthright. I was. I called the vet and Told him to get his F....g Ass out here right now. He was here within 40 min, not bad considering the 25 min drive. Horse was treated and made a full recovery. When a vet has a mixed practise of large and small animal, there's more money in the pets that come to the clinic that a road trip.

That's a lazy vet right there. My vet comes when I call him because that's his JOB. The "wait and see" thing is bull crap. If I was a vet, why wouldn't I go out and take a look? I would be getting paid for it right? I just do not understand those vets who wait and see, when it is their job to come take care of my animals, and I am paying them good money to do it. That's why if I get that from my vet, he won't be my vet for long. Granted there are times when I call them for advice, or to ask if they think they should come out, but good lord a horse is down and he told you to wait and see?
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    06-04-2012, 12:23 PM
  #38
Foal
Which is exactly why I said I don't know if all are, I did not say all Americans think that? I agree horses need vet care, but to say to someone there horse was better off sent to a slaughter house, that is rude and disrespectful. Some people don't believe in vets at all, no I don't wish to go in to that debate but don't think it's something to support.
     
    06-04-2012, 12:23 PM
  #39
Yearling
I can't believe the OP got offended like a child and ran away when everyone was giving very real and accurate advice. Horses are expensive. I am sick of people thinking they are cheap. IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD VET CARE- YOU SHOULD NOT OWN A HORSE. It really is that plain and simple.
     
    06-04-2012, 12:26 PM
  #40
Foal
Also, to the op do you not having pet Insurance in America?
     

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