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post #1 of 9 Old 07-30-2012, 12:14 PM Thread Starter
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Abscess/infected hole in bottom bar of mouth?

Hello,
I have a horse, his name is Erik. He is a carriage driving horse, but also gets ridden. He gets driven in a straight Liverpool bit and sometimes also in jointed Liverpool bits. He gets ridden in a jointed snaffle.
He had a bridle lameness caused my tension on his right rein, but we have had him checked, x-rays etc and he is not lame!
A couple of months ago he started to snatch at the bit every time you asked for the left rein or left bend ridden and driven, so we had a look in his mouth and there was, what looked to be, a hole in the bar of his mouth in a little from where the bit sits. Ever since finding that, he has a white-ish nasal discharge when exercised. He was given anti-biotics and time off for a while and we thought it had cleared up, but this weekend we were at a driving competition an he snatched a lot when asked to turn left. He is very honest so he did, but he was obviously not comfortable.
The vet came up today and put the gag in his mouth and had a proper look and she dug it out a little (which she didnt do last time). It bleeds at the side of the 'hole' and looks like deadish cartiliage stuff inside it. It smells a little when a swab is taken from inside it.
We were told it wasn't anything to do with his salivary glands as it is not in the right place.

We are thinking it might be a bone chip and it has got infected, but it could also have a foreign body in it and may have just got infected. Anti-biotics doesn't clear it up completely. It takes the pain away when using jointed bits, but he is still uncomfortable and we would like to get to the bottom of it.

He's a brilliant, loved horse, so worth the hassle.

Hope someone can help! Thanks!
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post #2 of 9 Old 07-30-2012, 12:28 PM
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He needs an x-ray to really see what is going on. The odor & non healing is an alert.
I hope you get some answers soon. He sounds like a trooper.
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post #3 of 9 Old 07-30-2012, 12:32 PM
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Oh yeah - that definitely needs more investigating! I would think if the first antibiotic was not able to clear it up completely, he needs a much stronger med.

Why isn't the vet being a little more aggressive with this?
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Oh yeah - that definitely needs more investigating! I would think if the first antibiotic was not able to clear it up completely, he needs a much stronger med.

Why isn't the vet being a little more aggressive with this?
I agree. That area excludes a tooth abscess so the jaw bone is the likely culprit & that can be very troublesome. Aggressive diagnosis & treatment is needed.
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Thanks. The vets have really done everything they can. We plan on taking him to the big vet school in Edinburgh (The Dick Vets), and see what they say. They have a horse mouth specialist and x-rays will have to be taken. Hopefully he won't have to be sedated, but if he does, I hope it works and they find something! :) Thank you!!
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Sounds like you're taking the right steps in taking him to the bigger facility. I suspect that you're right in the he has some object in there. When that happens, antibiotics will help for a little while but it can't clear up completely until the object is removed.
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I agree. That area excludes a tooth abscess so the jaw bone is the likely culprit & that can be very troublesome. Aggressive diagnosis & treatment is needed.

I would agree with this and it's crucial you get it under control otherwise as i;m sure you know it will spread. And if the infection gets into the blood well its dead.

Is it the upper or lower portion of the bar of his mouth?


Is he good about letting you at the area? Maybe you could apply some antiseptic


Even though the infection may be killed due to the antibiotic the puss will remin and will likely need to be drained a few times before the infected areas "dries out"

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Definitely investigate further. You certainly don't want an abscess of infection in the jaw.
Also, please don't work him while this is going on.

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post #9 of 9 Old 07-31-2012, 04:13 PM
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I wonder if it could be an impacted or improperly removed wolf tooth? Oh, and I agree that the horse shouldn't be worked until this gets cleared up.

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