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  • Abscess coronary grow down
  • Epsom salts coronet band abscess

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    01-29-2012, 11:32 PM
  #11
Foal
Good to hear it might be just shallow. We had a stallion who in his old age started getting abcesses in his back feet. We had a vet dig deep on one side of the hoof to get at an abcess only to have it blow out the coronet band on the opposite side of the foot. We did allot of soaking like everyone else mentioned with Epsom salts and iodine and we also massaged DMSO into his coronet to get the stubborn abcess to draw it out. Because of the deep hole left we sugerdine (white suger and iodine mix) packed his sole using baby diapers with duct tape for a little protective booty that works great. Vet wrap on gauze kept the upper hole clean. It takes some practice, but you will be a pro at wrapping feet and lower legs in no time if you
Need to keep things clean.
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    01-30-2012, 05:17 PM
  #12
Weanling
The farrier came out today, and took off the shoe the abcess was EXTREMELY shallow and he was able to squeeze it and it burst! Luckily it was on the sole of the foot! It is only about the size of a dime, we are soaking it for 20 min in warm water and epson salt, we are also using icmathal on gauze pads then putting a baby diaper over it and duct taping it, cause he lives outside and it is really muddy all the time! The farrier is coming on friday to but his shoes back on he is going to put a leather pad between this shoe and foot to keep stuff out of it, it will stay there for another 6-7 weeks until he gets his feet done again!
     
    01-31-2012, 12:35 AM
  #13
Trained
Hi,

I too disagree with digging, especially if you can't ensure you keep the open wound clean for a week or 2 at least. I also disagree that 'shallow' is good. Abscesses in the sole are frequently from bruising & they effect the corium which is a thin layer between the bone & hoof capsule. If an abscess in the sole is 'shallow' it can only mean the sole is very thin - one common reason for bruising/abscesses.

While abscesses do 'track' to the point of least resistance, I would doubt assumptions of abscesses tracking right around hooves - unless the hoof is so unhealthy as to be one big abscess, they're likely to be separate events. If a horse is 'prone' to abscesses I think this is an indication of serious ill health, of which they are a symptom.

I wouldn't put shoes back on a 'prone' horse or one with very thin soles generally, but endeavour to get them healthy first and use hoof boots where necessary for protection. While pads under shoes provide protection to thin soles, especially in a muddy environment they also create a great environment for infections to fester.
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    01-31-2012, 08:14 PM
  #14
Weanling
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Hi,

I too disagree with digging, especially if you can't ensure you keep the open wound clean for a week or 2 at least. I also disagree that 'shallow' is good. Abscesses in the sole are frequently from bruising & they effect the corium which is a thin layer between the bone & hoof capsule. If an abscess in the sole is 'shallow' it can only mean the sole is very thin - one common reason for bruising/abscesses.

While abscesses do 'track' to the point of least resistance, I would doubt assumptions of abscesses tracking right around hooves - unless the hoof is so unhealthy as to be one big abscess, they're likely to be separate events. If a horse is 'prone' to abscesses I think this is an indication of serious ill health, of which they are a symptom.

I wouldn't put shoes back on a 'prone' horse or one with very thin soles generally, but endeavour to get them healthy first and use hoof boots where necessary for protection. While pads under shoes provide protection to thin soles, especially in a muddy environment they also create a great environment for infections to fester.
my farrier said I would only have to soak it and keep it wrapped for 3 days because it was a minor abcess. I have been going out twice a day and wrapping and soaking it. I will try to get a picture of where it is and the size so yoou can see it. The vet says he has very healthy hooves, they are hard and black, they are small though!
     
    05-01-2012, 11:47 PM
  #15
Weanling
Its unfortunate that vets actually don't know a very large amount about hooves. Any hoof can look healthy to the uneducated eye. I wouldnt recommend shoes, or wrapping it, wounds need air to heal. Im not against shoes but it sounds like the hoof has a thin sole and shoes will just mask the problem not 'fix' them. Abscesses (sp?) come out of the hoof due to lack of circulation in the hoof in the first place, its dead crap coming out. Horses that have been in shoes for say 5 years, shoes pulled, can abscess up to 2 years because the shoes don't allow the hoof to expand naturally allowing proper blood flow into the hoof. Just wanted to put in my 0.02 cents.
     
    05-02-2012, 09:31 AM
  #16
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You can usually tell an abscess because the horse will have a low-grade fever and the hoof will be warm. If you put a hand around each hoof very early in the morning , you can feel that the sore one is slightly warmer. Early in the morning, all four feet should be very cold to the touch. Once a horse starts moving around, they all warm up and it is much more difficult to tell.

We started letting all abscesses come out at the coronary band many years ago. That is what is natural for them to do. Years ago, we let farriers and/or Vets dig them out and had several that took months to fill back in and required pad which encouraged soft feet and thrush.

When we moved here, we had several horses abcess because we changed from a very high dry desert environment to a wet one with more rain, mud and ponds. All of our horse's feet got soft and bruised and abscessed. The first Vet and farrier we used started digging them out. We ended up with horses that were unridable for months and the Vet crippled one. Then, we changed Vets and started using the horseshoeing school in Ardmore, we were taught to let them do the natural thing -- break and drain on the coronary band as long as there was not a foreign object in them.

As long as there is nothing that has penetrated the hoof and is still in there, they will get very lame, break and drain on the coronet, dry up and go away. We do not even doctor them any more. We just put them in a field that has no slimy pond to stand in.

If an abscess in a hoof has 'puss' in it, it probably has a foreign object in it -- or did have one. Most hoof abscesses have a black watery liquid in them. After they break on the Coronary band, a little 'blister' grows down on the hoof wall. It grows out and is trimmed off without any consequence as all.

Since we changed tactics, the Vets and the horse-shoers make a lot less money and the horses are completely better much more quickly.
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