Hi, haven't read all replies, so sorry if I repeat...
Originally Posted by IllComeALopin
I am so disappointed. My farrier spend an HOUR on that one foot. When Pj through the left front he ‘chipped’ so much hoof away that his hoof is a bit too short and of course tender and sore. Now he has done the same thing to the right foot… thus he is ouchy and miserable on both front feet.
What on earth was your farrier doing for an hour on one foot?? Casting it as well??
As you no doubt learned at Pete Ramey's clinic(don't know about KC), unhealthy, weak feet tend to get unhealthier in shoes, so yes, I'd be inclined to keep him unshod. I'm not against shoes on healthy feet *necessarily* tho. Pete would have also pointed out the need for the horse to exercise comfortably in order to use - & therefore develop his feet correctly. Boots or Vettec Sole Guard or such are generally appropriate for this. Depending on many factors(which Pete also would have pointed out) the state of his feet, his management & amount of work, etc, etc, you might find he needs boots or such for quite some time, for little time, or always on certain surfaces.
| Its making me miserable. I am TRYING to do the right thing, I trust my farrier, but obviously it isn’t working. Another farrier wouldn't even touch him and told me Pj just has crappy feet, he won't keep a shoe on and good luck going barefoot . |
Hmm, some of them are so helpful, huh??
Keep learning all you can about the principles & factors that effect hoof health. It's obvious you are doing your best atm, and based on what you've so far learned, you may have good reason to trust your farrier, but blind trust without understanding is not helpful. That it's obviously not working, your farrier takes an hour per foot, and that he keeps just shoeing feet that won't hold them(or the manner he shoes means they get pulled off) gives me reason to doubt how 'trustworthy' he is. Tho of course, you may have more reasons to trust him.
He is on a hoof supplement and I use hoof oil every day
Good that he's supplemented. I personally think it's a good idea to do at least a basic diet analysis before choosing supplements, and use a service/program such as FeedXL.com in order to ensure he's getting what he needs - which is often not what supps tell you on the packaging unfortunately! What is his diet like? Starchy/sugary feed is one big culprit of 'crappy feet'.
Hoof oil is not good for feet. It prevents the hooves from being porous. Likewise, I wouldn't advise turps, durasole, keretex, etc, etc. There are negatives to their use and very little positives - he needs to grow *thicker* soles, not harder.
| He cannot wear the boots during tunrout. They will wear the top of his hoof and make him even more uncomfortable to I would rather go without them. |
If he is lame when turned out, Vettec that I mentioned may be a better option, but hopefully boots such as easyboots with gaiters shouldn't rub him and booting for turnout will only be short term.
| If I get pictures of his feet tomorrow can someone give me some barefoot advice? What hoof angles (for photos) would you like to see? |
Yep, definitely. Clean(you'd be surprised...) feet on level-ish surface, squarely front- & side-on from at or near ground level, and a variety of angles of sole/heel, to get an idea of balance, depth, etc.
Also he has little fiber-ish things poking out of his feet…
At the 'white line'? I imagine you mean the laminae, which is separated. Which means he may be foundered, likely at least long-term laminitic - but that's only an educated guess based on a very little info.
| He have little halter horse feet... like the kind prone to navicular...eventually. I was told the best way to prevent this is to go bare foot... I really don't know the truth to that. |
Can only give you my opinion & experience there, and advise again you do all the research you can to make an informed decision. I've been a hcp for 10 years & rehabbed many sick hooves, inc. 'navicular'. As said above, *generally*(there are exceptions), I believe sick feet are far better unshod. That is not to say bare tho, as comfort is a big factor to getting feet healthy.
| barefoot and hopefully this will help prevent navicular and make his feet healthy and happy... but I really have no idea if that's even possible . |
Really?? You have no idea, even after doing clinics with Pete & KC? Perhaps you mean you're (healthily
) skeptical about it? Again, IMO Pete Ramey is a good one to follow - can't speak personally for KC - but again, I also advise you just do more homework, consider the principles & pros & cons of different approaches & come to your own informed decision.