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post #71 of 113 Old 03-04-2014, 09:19 PM
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stick with it then girl! Your horse will be well, just may take some time.
Looks like a nice feed. If I ever win the lottery and can move some place warmer I have to remember that brand.

Chick's saddlery has Equimax on sale for 8.99. It's labeled for tape worms

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Cheapest I've seen for a couple years now.
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stick with it then girl! Your horse will be well, just may take some time.
Looks like a nice feed. If I ever win the lottery and can move some place warmer I have to remember that brand.

Chick's saddlery has Equimax on sale for 8.99. It's labeled for tape worms

.Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Equimax Paste Wormer <>

Cheapest I've seen for a couple years now.
Yeah I think this will be "the feed" lol and oh okay awesome thanks gonna treat her for tape worms then let y'all know how that goes!!!
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I just looked up the feed is said 6%? But as long as it is working for you. I would feed more though, but check what the bag says. Maybe call and talk to a representative and tell them you have a rescue in bad shape and what would they recommend?
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I specified we weren't trying to harass you but I should also specify the "harassing" is us simply trying to advise, which I know you want.

There are a lot of things the people (everyone, not just you) don't think of until something clicks. Which is why we are saying these things. Several of those rescue images posted are TBs which look much better in a relatively short amount of time. No one is pointing fingers at your care, just saying you should up her feed and check out any other health avenues via the vet.

Tapeworms are indeed a possibility. First check if what you are deworming with coves tapeworms, second get a fecal to make sure she is clear!

There could be something besides or instead or tapeworms, but I'm pretty sure there is something going on. Make sure she is 100% worm free is a good place to start.

New_Image, congrats on those rescues!
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I just looked up the feed is said 6%? But as long as it is working for you. I would feed more though, but check what the bag says. Maybe call and talk to a representative and tell them you have a rescue in bad shape and what would they recommend?
Says 8% on feed tag and I weighed it out she's getting 3.5 pounds twice a day plus unlimited Bahia and beetpulp
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Oooh.. I was looking at textured. I see the pelleted is 8%. My bad.

(Isn't this what the other poster recommended? K Finish® Horse Supplement I'll have to try it some time.)

I would still think to up it, to me it's on the lower end. You're definitely on the right track though!

To save anyone else looking it up (second amounts are hay):

Mature Weight: 880-1,100 lbs
Idle
4-8
9 - 14
Light Training
6-10
10 - 16
Moderate Training
8-12
10 - 16
Intense Training
10-14
12 - 18
Mature Weight: 1,100-1,320 lbs
Idle
5-9
12 -18
Light Training
7-11
14 -20
Moderate Training
10-14
14 -20
Intense Training
12-16
16 - 22


Crude Protein (Min.)............................................ ........... 14.0%
Lysine (Min.)............................................ ...................... 0.75%
Methionine (Min.) .................................................. ........ 0.22%
Methionine & Cystine (Min.).......................................... 0.50%
Threonine (Min.) .................................................. .......... 0.50%
Crude Fat (Min.)............................................ ................... 8.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.)............................................ ............. 20.0%
Calcium (Ca) (Min.) .................................................. ....... 0.8%
Calcium (Ca) (Max.)............................................ ............. 1.3%
Phosphorus (P) (Min.) .................................................. .. 0.60%
Copper (Cu) (Min.)............................................ ........... 65 ppm
Zinc (Zn) (Min.) .................................................. ........200 ppm
Selenium (Se) (Min.) .................................................. ..0.6 ppm
Potassium (K) (Min.)............................................ ............ 1.0%
Magnesium (Mg) (Min.)............................................ ..... 0.35%
Manganese (Mn) (Min.)............................................ ...160 ppm
Cobalt (Co) (Min.)............................................ ............1.3 ppm
Iron (Fe) (Min.) .................................................. .........440 ppm
Iodine (I) (Min.)............................................ ................1.1 ppm
Salt (NaCl) (Min.)............................................ ................. 0.5%
Salt (NaCl) (Max.)............................................ ................ 1.0%
Vitamin A (Min.)............................................ ....... 5,500 IU/lb.
Vitamin D (Min.)............................................ .......... 500 IU/lb.
Vitamin E (Min.) .................................................. .... 200 IU/lb.
Vitamin C (Min.) .................................................. ..... 25 mg/lb.
Biotin (Min.)............................................ ................. 0.7 mg/lb.
Thiamine (Min.) .................................................. ..... 8.5 mg/lb.
Riboflavin (Min.)............................................ .......... 4.5 mg/lb.
Omega 6 Fatty Acids (Min.) ............................................. 2.8%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids (Min.) ............................................. 0.3%
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Oooh.. I was looking at textured. I see the pelleted is 8%. My bad.

(Isn't this what the other poster recommended? K Finish® Horse Supplement I'll have to try it some time.)

I would still think to up it, to me it's on the lower end. You're definitely on the right track though!

To save anyone else looking it up (second amounts are hay):

Mature Weight: 880-1,100 lbs
Idle
4-8
9 - 14
Light Training
6-10
10 - 16
Moderate Training
8-12
10 - 16
Intense Training
10-14
12 - 18
Mature Weight: 1,100-1,320 lbs
Idle
5-9
12 -18
Light Training
7-11
14 -20
Moderate Training
10-14
14 -20
Intense Training
12-16
16 - 22


Crude Protein (Min.)............................................ ........... 14.0%
Lysine (Min.)............................................ ...................... 0.75%
Methionine (Min.) .................................................. ........ 0.22%
Methionine & Cystine (Min.).......................................... 0.50%
Threonine (Min.) .................................................. .......... 0.50%
Crude Fat (Min.)............................................ ................... 8.0%
Crude Fiber (Max.)............................................ ............. 20.0%
Calcium (Ca) (Min.) .................................................. ....... 0.8%
Calcium (Ca) (Max.)............................................ ............. 1.3%
Phosphorus (P) (Min.) .................................................. .. 0.60%
Copper (Cu) (Min.)............................................ ........... 65 ppm
Zinc (Zn) (Min.) .................................................. ........200 ppm
Selenium (Se) (Min.) .................................................. ..0.6 ppm
Potassium (K) (Min.)............................................ ............ 1.0%
Magnesium (Mg) (Min.)............................................ ..... 0.35%
Manganese (Mn) (Min.)............................................ ...160 ppm
Cobalt (Co) (Min.)............................................ ............1.3 ppm
Iron (Fe) (Min.) .................................................. .........440 ppm
Iodine (I) (Min.)............................................ ................1.1 ppm
Salt (NaCl) (Min.)............................................ ................. 0.5%
Salt (NaCl) (Max.)............................................ ................ 1.0%
Vitamin A (Min.)............................................ ....... 5,500 IU/lb.
Vitamin D (Min.)............................................ .......... 500 IU/lb.
Vitamin E (Min.) .................................................. .... 200 IU/lb.
Vitamin C (Min.) .................................................. ..... 25 mg/lb.
Biotin (Min.)............................................ ................. 0.7 mg/lb.
Thiamine (Min.) .................................................. ..... 8.5 mg/lb.
Riboflavin (Min.)............................................ .......... 4.5 mg/lb.
Omega 6 Fatty Acids (Min.) ............................................. 2.8%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids (Min.) ............................................. 0.3%
Thank you and yes I'm thinking about getting the k finish as well as a top dressing to help boost up everything cause you only need 1-3 lb I think I'm heading in right direction with this feed safechoice was just HORRIBLE..
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Also how much would you if you were me bump up this feed? Right now we're at 7lb a day in grain.. I also know it not good to feed more then 5lb in a single feeding..
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Also how much would you if you were me bump up this feed? Right now we're at 7lb a day in grain.. I also know it not good to feed more then 5lb in a single feeding..
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Kimberlyrae, the way I've had success is to feed for the weight they SHOULD be, not for the weight they're at. So, if she weighed 700 lbs when you got her and you want her at 900 lbs, then you'd start low and work your way up to the mid range they're suggesting feeding. So I'd be working my way up to 10 lbs/day divided into 3 feedings. You add 1 lb of feed per week until you're up to where you should be to maintain her at the weight you want her at. So, if she's gaining on 7 lbs, then do that for 1 week and add 1/2 lb per feeding, do that for a week and at another 1/2 lb per feeding, until she tapes at close to what you think is her ideal weight.

I also would recommend doing a fecal on her and dosing her for exactly what it says she has. That way you don't give her a treatment for strongyles when she has tapes. If her teeth are good, and you get the worms all cleared out, if she doesn't have ulcers, she ought to start packing the weight on really quickly. Sometimes it just takes a bit of time for them to turn the corner after all the health issues are addressed.

She's looking a lot better from pic 1 to the latest pic. You're on the right path.



This is a mare I reposessed, about 1 month after I got her home. I was so disgusted with how she looked, I wouldn't even take pics the day I picked her up.



This is her before I sold her. She was a Saddlebred, so has a long thin neck, no matter what.



About 8 weeks after I got her home. The first 3 I never even saw her face, she kept her head buried in the hay.
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^^ This.

I think adding a little of the k finish sounds good too. Very high in fat.
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