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    04-24-2013, 08:29 PM
  #11
Green Broke
I had a mare that eventually was euthed due to this. She would only weight bear on her toe. We wrapped, etc, Multiple Vets and bills..;( she ended up being just a pet for many years until she got so bad that the hoof split at the coronet band . I hope your horse heals.
     
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    04-24-2013, 11:37 PM
  #12
Green Broke
My regular vet called back after he consulted the vet that was out today. He asked me a few questions and then said to put him on stall rest for a week and see how he is. If it's the same or worse we will ultrasound, if it's better we will leave him on stall rest a few months and then try hand walking.

My trainer came out and said it wasn't nearly as bad as she thought, and not near what her horse was. She thinks it's possibly a sprain or strain in the ligament and not a tear. His ankles look normal. He has no heat in the tendon itself, and there is almost no swelling at all. There is just a small area of heat where the lower ligament attaches. We iced it, wrapped it and gave him some B-L pellets.

He has been moved next to a mare who is also on stall rest so they can keep each other company during the day and I have arranged for him to have lunch. I'm not sure there is much else I can do at this point except to ice it every day this week, keep it wrapped and keep him calm while crossing my fingers and toes that it is indeed just a bad strain.
     
    04-24-2013, 11:41 PM
  #13
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by 4horses    
Are the horse's ankles still upright? Compare the front ankles to the back. If both back ankles are starting to drop than you have degenerative ligaments. The ankle can drop before the legs start swelling. Or the swelling can come first.

Ligament injuries usually get better with rest. Degenerative ligaments do not and walking/movement should be encouraged (after the initial injury is given time to heal). Degenerative ligaments are also easily misdiagnosed.

This is advanced/severe degenerative ligaments. The hind legs becomes straighter as the horses conformation changes. This is considered rare, but I've seen lots of cases in this area. It probably isn't this unless both hind legs are affected, but one hind will usually show signs first.
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I thought this was something that happened over time. Cinny's injury was pretty much a slap in the face. He was cantering around, bucking and frolicking at play and the next he couldn't walk...BAM.
     
    04-25-2013, 05:50 AM
  #14
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    
My regular vet called back after he consulted the vet that was out today. He asked me a few questions and then said to put him on stall rest for a week and see how he is. If it's the same or worse we will ultrasound, if it's better we will leave him on stall rest a few months and then try hand walking.

My trainer came out and said it wasn't nearly as bad as she thought, and not near what her horse was. She thinks it's possibly a sprain or strain in the ligament and not a tear. His ankles look normal. He has no heat in the tendon itself, and there is almost no swelling at all. There is just a small area of heat where the lower ligament attaches. We iced it, wrapped it and gave him some B-L pellets.

He has been moved next to a mare who is also on stall rest so they can keep each other company during the day and I have arranged for him to have lunch. I'm not sure there is much else I can do at this point except to ice it every day this week, keep it wrapped and keep him calm while crossing my fingers and toes that it is indeed just a bad strain.
If I were in your shoes, I would insist on an ultrasound this week. I wouldn't put a horse on box rest for "a few months" without a clear diagnosis, and I would be even more reluctant to do so if the vet in question hasn't seen the horse himself and is just making decisions and a prognosis based off descriptions from you and his colleague. I don't think there is anyone who can definitively diagnose sprains, strains, and tears in those ligaments without using bits of expensive kit like ultrasound machines.
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    04-25-2013, 08:27 AM
  #15
Trained
I would trust your vet, but do insist on an ultrasound when he does come out. I say this because its something my vet would do. But he has years of experience in the field and has treated many, many top horses so I trust his judgement. I've seen him successfully treat and rehab injuries back to soundness with nothing more than a needle cap and some bute (and stall rest and time, of course).
Does he have the horse on bute as well?
Generally the prognosis on a ligament injury depends on the severity of the tear, so wait to see with the ultrasound. I'm thinking that the vet wants the inflammation down before further examination.

As well, once the initial inflammation is gone and you are out of the acute injury phase and into the healing phase, I know people who have had great success with Back on Track to increase circulation and healing.

Good luck!
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    04-25-2013, 10:33 AM
  #16
Foal
Sending good thoughts that it's not too serious and he heals up well!

I had a friend whose horse tore a suspensory a few years ago, they rehabbed her and she actually returned to her previous level of competition. Unfortunately she suffered another tear on a different leg recently, so they've officially retired her from competition. The treatment and rehab is SO important though, I would definitely get an ultrasound and make sure you follow the vet's directions to a T!

Best of luck with your boy!
     
    04-25-2013, 04:59 PM
  #17
Green Broke
My visit with Cinny today left me very hopeful. When I took him over to the cross ties he didn't limp at all. I took his bandages off and there is no heat, no swelling, NOTHING. I took him to the wash to ice and hose his leg and one of the girls at the barn said "I thought Cinny was lame" when she saw him walking and acting normally. Hurrah, I take this as a very good sign.

After his hosing I massaged from his knee down with icy hot as my trainer told me to do and then re-wrapped him with the wraps she gave me that she used on her mare. He nuzzled me as I did it, it was so cute. Then I put him in his stall and he had a very confused look on his face. I don't think he's hurting at all. It's been over 24 hours since the injection the vet gave him for pain. For now we are treating him with BL Pellets B-L Pellets - Equine Anti-Inflammatory Supplements from SmartPak Equine for pain. My vet says he likes to try that first with his ulcer horses and if that doesn't work there is one other thing he uses before resorting to something like bute.

I gave him his lunch, his peppermints, gave his neighbor some peppermints and went on my way as I didn't have a babysitter and had my toddler with me. I am so so hopeful. Here are some pictures I took immediately after the wrapping was taken off and before ice or cold hosing. In the top picture I have circled where the sore spot and heat was yesterday that isn't there today.

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My plan right now is to stall rest him for about a month while scraping up money for ultrasound. If he continues looking like there is nothing wrong with him for a whole month, then I will get the ultrasound done to make sure before he goes into work. If he starts up lame again, limping, heat, etc I will try to get it done sooner. Regardless, he will NOT be worked without a vet checking him and an ultrasound!
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    04-25-2013, 10:11 PM
  #18
Weanling
My OTTB did his suspensory twice. It ended his race career. Unfortunately I have no idea how severe the injury was and if it was scanned now, all the results would show is that there was damage. I also don't know his initial treatment. So that is not much help.... This may offer you some hope though, After his race career was over and he was declared sound, he was turned out into a paddock and left to be a horse for a few years before I bought him.

He is rising 10, has been checked over by 2 vets and declared sound. He is ridden 3-5 times a week (depending on what competitions are on the weekend and which horse I am taking). I have had him over 12 months and in that time he has; galloped around his clay paddock in the middle of summer - without a rider (the ground is rock hard, like concrete), He has cantered in his clay paddocks when it is wet (in clay deep enough to suck one of his shoes off) for a week until his winter paddock was ready - without a rider, he has jumped (not often) up to 60cms, is ridden out and also competed at various show horse days, dressage days and also one ODE (at 45cms).

I am selective with how I increase Bo's workload - I take is slow and gradually build up the intensity, as per my vet's advice. I know he will never be an eventer or a show jumper and when he jumps, it is only little jumps to break things up and keep things interesting. I am aiming to take him as high as he can do in Dressage. His body will be able to cope with Advanced... his leg may not allow him to get that high, I don't mind. He is enough of a challenge and a lovely boy to have around. I am content to work with his limitations.

I manage him with Bowen Therapy (as I am a trained Bowen Therapist), Stretching, working him in water and I also use Photonic Red Light Therepy on his leg with good results. The red light helps to promote cellular healing and stimulates the blood flow and production of Collagen, which is essential in the healing of damaged tissue. As Suspensories don't have a lot of blood flow, even a slight increase can assist healing them. Here is a link to some of the research that has been done on the efficacy of Red Light Therepy. ResearchRed Lights Therapy Kits | Red Lights Therapy Kits

Here is some pics of Bo in action
Bo's first Show Horse event... A first, two seconds and a fourth.
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Bo last weekend
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Fitness work at the beach
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Second ever show horse event
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Showjumping
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From what I have read about the prognosis of suspensory injuries, they very much depend on correct diagnosis, the speed at which treatment starts and the location of the damage. I would not be waiting to get the scan done and also do a heap of reading about treatment and rehabilitation of suspensories. You can PM me is you have any other questions about Bo or my management of him. :)
     
    04-26-2013, 12:14 AM
  #19
Green Broke
Thanks Nae Nae for the inspiration. I am starting to feel much more positive about the whole ordeal today. My trainer is very hopeful too, and the fact that today he seems as if nothing is wrong with him has me much more relaxed.

Time to take it slow, very slow and just see what happens.
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    04-26-2013, 12:41 AM
  #20
Trained
Excellent news, certainly doesn't sound like anything serious if he is fine the next day and no swelling or heat.
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