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post #21 of 32 Old 05-28-2013, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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4horses, this horse will never be up for sale from my ownership. Ever.

I have a few options, as you have seen the previous board, German law states I have the possibility to return. So far the dealer is playing friendly, but time will tell.

If not, I have two homes I can send him too as a rideable pasture puff. Both are aware of the situation.

Thank you also for the link; as of yet we are unsure as to the age of the injury. There is a possibility it could be from birth, and or foal age as the vet cannot see any chips, but it is 'old' so to speak.

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I just cant believe he isn't lame looking at those xrays :( poor boy. Arthritis would be a concern of mine, alongside hock joint integrity. I saw a horse have a catestrophic break of their near fore cannon bone, vet thinks there was a hairline fracture, they had all been galloping about and the horse came down into walk and the leg just went :(. Unfortunatly the horse was PTS as vet said it was irrepairable. :(

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You're telling me.

No one can believe it. He was started at three, and I have had him 10 1/2 months. He is worked steadily, probably 5/6 times a week.. ridden, lunged, free lunged.. nothing too strenuous but enough to keep him ticking over. He is turned out and bucks and farts around the place like no one's business..

Vet so far has said keep him in work.. there is no obvious discomfort etc. This horse is an absolute saint under saddle, has never put a foot wrong. He has spooked three times under saddle, all have been a couple of side steps. He tries his heart out and works 110% every time. My trainer used to ride, train and compete three year old stallions from her father's Trakhener breeding barn, and has had some very, very nice horses. She said her own horses that were bred for movement and temperament don't come close to how calm and intelligent he is.

If he had shown some sort of outside discomfort, bucking or kicking out or unwillingness to work i would understand.. but nothing.. not on a 12m circle, or a serpentine is there any hint that the leg may drag or hop.. it is astounding.
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Could be a testament to his temperament, or it could be the injury is that old and the pain low grade that he is 'used' to it? Or it simply might not hurt. I personally wouldnt ride him but i would do long reining in walk. Maybe get a nuclear scintigrapy to check if any new bone growth, it will show whether the site is active (seen as hot spots) or not.

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post #26 of 32 Old 05-28-2013, 04:30 PM
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Duffy, I wouldnt write him off just yet.
See what your vet says but you may be able to keep him in work for a while yet.

I'd be worried about his future if he goes back to the dealer.

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Oh no I am so sorry to hear about that. Poor guy. :(

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post #28 of 32 Old 05-29-2013, 01:07 AM
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My vet, who is a lameness specialist, says she no longer recommends X raying the hocks if the horse is lame. She says some horses will have terrible looking hocks and be sound, and others will have nice clean looking joints and be lame. She will inject first, and if that doesn't help they can re-evaluate the situation.
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I am sorry OP, I don't know your history with this horse and what he was intented to be used for. You said they said it was ok to put him to work, but what kind?

If it were me, I would train him for as easy a job as possible to maximize the chances of keeping him sound. I would say he is pretty much gauranteed to develop arthritis at the site, but whether or not it affects soundness will obviously be the issue. I would also hold off on antinflammatory injections in that area unless he is actually hurting. They should help but will eventually stop working, so you do not want to start with that unless you absolutely have to.

The interesting phenomenon about bodies is that many of us, human and critter, have deformities, degeneration and injury that may show up with diagnostics, but not ever cause the individual any pain...they are just randomly discovered like this case.

I would put this boy to work carrying light riders doing things that minimize working off the hind end, which sucks, because we generally *want* horses working off their hineys...not this guy.

My horse injured her left back suspensory last October. As I have recently started rehab riding her again, I am becoming very aware of thing that stress the hind end. So,tight circles, cantering-especially departures, sudden stops and starts, collection, steep hills, rapid backing, hindquarter disengagement, and more intense lateral work.

If this guy could have a career as beginner lesson horse or a recreational trail horse, I would suspect he would stay sound for quite a while, perhaps his whole working life. If you cannot find a buyer willing to risk it, how about a long term lease where he will be worked lightly and loved? That would help take the day to day expenses off you.

If you put this horse to work as a dressage horse, jumper, eventer, endurance, anything serious, I think you are just asking for trouble. I doubt his body will hold up long term. The good news is that he is currently sound. The main question is how to keep him pain free and useful as long as possible. Better a 15 year career as a trail horse than a 5 year career in eventing IMO.

Good luck my dear. So very sorry you are dealing with this!!
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post #30 of 32 Old 05-29-2013, 02:58 AM Thread Starter
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Agree 100% Kountry,

He initial 'career' was supposed to be in dressage; I am not a competition rider however. When I bought him, it was because he had a superb mind, and fantastic gaits. Something I could work with and he would be my project.

At 4, I am slightly worried as he is still growing, but although he has no pain.. what happens when his bones 'set'? All big questions that can't be predicted at this current time.

He has a relatively easy life, and isn't pushed to be at the top of his game at this age. This is more a case of him learning his basics and going from there.

I have a few options, and currently in a complete mess. I have to wait on the dealer, however if she decides that she will then send Dubai to slaughter, I have a back up plan. I don't want to advertise him as a 'free to a good home'.. there are so many horror stories, especially in this area, of horses being used and used until they break, injected, used some more, then slaughter.

As he is sound, there is no need for him to go to slaughter; if he were lame then I would have made the decision myself as the kindest thing.

Vet has said carry on as normal, the bones have fused and there are no chips. Just got to take it easy, focus a lot on warm up and cool down, no tight circles (not that we were doing any) and take care of the little boy.
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