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post #1 of 15 Old 06-30-2009, 03:35 AM Thread Starter
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Aggressive New Horse

So we just got a new horse and it turns out he is really aggressive. He wasn't like that before we got him though. We had two geldings and a mare before we got the new horse. We have never had any problems with them at all. Well the new horse came and instantly cut the mare out of the herd and became aggressive over her.

My horse is really attached to the mare so at first he tried to get to her and the new horse got really mean with him and started biting and kicking. The new horse is 9 and my horse is 20, my horse was the alpha before this horse moved in. But my horse is smart and knew he couldn't win so he backed off.

Well the mare still wanted to be with my horse and the other gelding so she would run to them away from the new horse. The new horse would then go after the two geldings and attack them even though they were trying to mind their own business. Needless to say my horse got really beat up, our other gelding is old, arthritic, can't fight back at all. I felt so bad for them.

Needless to say I now hate the new horse. I went out there and was tossing dried horse poop at him everytime he came near me or the other geldings. On a plus note he now respects me and won't even dare come near me which is nice because I don't want to even touch him.

But yeah here are some pictures of my horse's wounds.

The only one on his right side, haunch.


Left side haunch


Left side hip


Left side haunch


Left side haunch


Rear left leg


Left side loin


Yeah poor guy I am really glad that the kick didn't make him lame cause that is his arthitic leg.

We hosed him down for an hour to help with swelling and used three different ointments and sprays for the cuts to keep infection and flys and swelling down.
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post #2 of 15 Old 06-30-2009, 04:35 AM
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Have you separated them now?
I got a new horse who behaved like this, I sent him back. Mind you the gelding did have some other issues that I did not like. But he did not settle and the other horses hated him. We have another gelding who is also a bully, he is on his own and prefers it that way. He hates my boy and any opportunity will chase him and take a chunk out of him and really make him bleed.
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Have you separated them now?
I got a new horse who behaved like this, I sent him back. Mind you the gelding did have some other issues that I did not like. But he did not settle and the other horses hated him. We have another gelding who is also a bully, he is on his own and prefers it that way. He hates my boy and any opportunity will chase him and take a chunk out of him and really make him bleed.
They are seperated now, we put my horse and the old gelding in the side paddock and the new horse and the mare are in the main paddock. They can still get at each other over the fence though, but that is the best we can do. We are getting rid of the mare in a couple days and if that doesn't solve the problem we will be trying to convince my friends mom to get rid of the new gelding because he is just to aggressive with the other two geldings.
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post #4 of 15 Old 06-30-2009, 12:12 PM
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Well if the horse is new he could be trying to put himself on the top of the pecking order. Horses are herd animals and they are always looking for moments to be the "top of the herd leader". I'd say give him a chance, unless he is violently aggressive that it's putting your other horses in serious danger. I have two horses that have been together for 4 years now and they still bite each other.
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post #5 of 15 Old 06-30-2009, 03:06 PM
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if the mare is really attached to the other older gelding then why not put the new horse alone so that he can cool down and leave the other three that got along well together?

i hope it all works out- new pain in the butt horses suck :(

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post #6 of 15 Old 06-30-2009, 03:22 PM
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he sounds like a proud cut gelding. He is keeping her away from the others like a stud does. I would put her in with the other boys so that she does not end up getting hurt.

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We were thinking he was proud cut too, we know my horse was but he is so much older that he is really calm and doesn't act it much except for grumbling at mares and doing the stud stomp thing. He isn't aggressive though. We thought that might be a lot of the problem because both could be proud cut, but the new horse wasn't only attacking my horse, he attacked the other gelding that is gelded normal.

We don't want to stick him in a place by himself cause we don't want him to hurt himself trying to get to the mare. He isn't aggressive with her at all, plus she is way bigger than he is. He just herds her around the pasture but never kicks or bites at her. It is only the other geldings he hates. We are getting rid of the mare next week so hopefully that will solve most of the problems.
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I have a mare that is the biggest bully to my draft cross, but only when someone is out there near the pasture the rest of the time she is a total doll baby to him. Now that he has wised up to her game he just stays away from her
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post #9 of 15 Old 07-02-2009, 09:42 AM
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It's not likely he's proud cut. Some horses are just that way. I would pull him off all grain if he's on any, only feeding him hay or hay pellets if they need anything else besides pasture. The excess energy grain gives a horse can increase poor behavior. If he needs supplements, mix them with hay pellets and a little water.

If all else fails, I've seen some amazing things done with the use of a training shock collar (dog version with a leather collar extension). Hide out in the barn, but in an area with a clear view of the horses. When he even just pins his ears at a horse, you give him a mild correction. If he starts chasing a horse or goes to bite/kick, you increase the correction until he backs off. It usually only takes a few consistent days of work to eliminate the behavior (separate the horse when you're not there).
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I have to say my 2 cents. I think YOU (or your parents/friends of your parents whoever owns the property and takes care of the horses) caused this problem. If a horse is new he should be held in an isolation pen (mine is 50 ft away from the main paddocks) for at least a week and then after that introduced to each herd member individually (I hand graze) over the course of another week or two. After he has associated with each horse individually maybe for two weeks maybe longer THEN AND ONLY THEN should he be put out in the herd.

By throwing him out in the herd immediately you set this horse up for disaster. And throwing poop at him...very immature. Im sorry...that's the way I read it.

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