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  • Dcy by med vet for horses with navicular
  • Long term use of a mild diuretic

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    07-31-2012, 03:25 PM
  #11
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Wallaby    
A lot of the supplements I've seen that have Devil's Claw in them say that they are safe for longterm use... Can you point me in the direction of some documentation of that^^? [I don't disbelieve you, I'm just trying narrow down "the best" of the worst, you know?]
Maybe it has to do with doses+time frame?
I'll show you one of the things I found that's supposedly "safe" for longterm use, maybe you know something about the other ingredients too... :)
Med-Vet DC-Y - Horse.com

But then again, I supposed it doesn't actually say "safe for longterm use", it says "can be continously fed at this rate"...two different things. Haha




Interesting! I'll get a tube of that then! There's no way Miss L will be able to not get bute during an attack so making it a less crazy expierence would probably be good.

I do have eye ointment but it's steroid based and due the high risk of ulcers, she advised me to use the ointment with caution. I asked her about prescribing an ointment or drops that weren't steroid based but she was unsure about going that route (we were talking over the phone and neither of us are really "phone people") and I didn't catch her reasoning.
Personally, I love my vet but I think this all is a little out of her depth. However, she's the best in the area (the other vet in the area didn't even catch Lacey's ERU a year and a half ago when I called them out specifically to check for any eye abnormalities because I felt like something was wrong) so we're a wee bit stuck that way...
If she's having a flare up I'd use the ointment as long as there is no abrasion to the eye. It will help with the pain too. You may need to have the eye stained before use though, just to be sure. Try to find a vet who knows eyes really well as there are different treatments available.
My horse had one episode a couple of years ago & the ointment was an eye saver.
     
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    07-31-2012, 03:44 PM
  #12
Yearling
Wallaby

its a mild diuretic for horses during longterm use can increase the risk of colic in horses because your horse becomes slowly dehydrated and gut movements begin to slow down, not to mention a mild sedative which idk about you but being groggy for an extended period of time may make your horse unhappy...

I doubt there is going to be many studies focused on extended use of devils claw; i'm sure its relatively safe for extended use in small portions (obviously) but you may be doing so at the risk of complications which I've stated above... risks with everything you know what I mean...
     
    08-08-2012, 08:02 PM
  #13
Super Moderator
Thought I'd just update, for posterity's sake... :)
I finally got the stuff I had previously linked to (Med-Vet DC-Y - Horse.com ) and Lacey had a dose (half the reccomended dose of 1oz, going to lower that as we go along, hopefully) yesterday and today. The result has been pretty great so far, I think.
She's been perkier, her eyes were hardly puffy today and I even left her flymask off overnight (she's been getting rubbed, but after wearing a mask 24/7 for over 2 weeks, I understand) - something that precipitates slightly puffy eyes the next day.
But yeah, so far things are looking up. I'm hoping to lower the dose even more once it's "in her system" but we'll see.

The pellets do smell disgusting but Lacey seems to think they smells fantastic... gross old horse!
Anyway, so far I reccomend it! :)
     
    08-09-2012, 05:30 AM
  #14
Yearling
I use BL Solution for my navicular horse. It works very well for him
     

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