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    10-08-2008, 09:32 PM
  #1
Trained
Unhappy always lame...im so fed up

many of you know that I've been having some problems with my warmblood being in pain from something. Initial things were ruled out in the beginning when the farrier said his feet & legs were fine. Then we got his teeth done and the chiropractor for his back and he seemed great.

There was still something a little not right with him but I had only got to ride him a few times before we started having the same problems again. I knew as soon as I got on him and he tensed up and put his ears back that it was the same problem that he had had before. So I got the chiropractor out again. He crunched and massaged for about half an hour and said that he was out of whack worse than he was the first time and that was pretty bad. Nothing had happened that we had seen or done that could have caused it. Even the chiro said that. But he wasnt entirely sure what did cause it. His best guess was being the alpha horse that he is maybe he is getting a little too boisterous in the paddock and is slipping over a bit or getting into disagreements with other geldings.

I hopped on him 4 days after that chiro visit and he wasnt too bad but once again still not completely right. So I just walked him around a little and hopped off. The chiro came out to see another horse there the other day and I mentioned to him how he still isnt right. He looked at him again and found more problems. He said he is really confused because each time there are new problems. Its not like the same spot every time. Its all different stuff. This time he worked on this spot on his rump that made him kick like a mule for 10 minutes until it was finally sorted. He said something was being pinched in there. He also worked a spot near his stifle that had some ligament probs.

Then yesterday when we got there he cantered down from the back paddock and even from a distance he looked terrible. He was cantering normally with his front legs but his back legs were barely moving and he was pulling up very short in his stride. When he started trotting his back hooves were landing about 8 inches short of his front hoof marks. Once he slowed down he slowed way down and had a really slow almost painful walk. I checked him over for anything visible that might have happened but there was nothing. And he was sore. I tried to give him a little brush cause he had been in the dam and was covered in mud but he kicked at me and bit at me when I brushed his back.

So obviously its his back but why are so many things happening with it? If its not one thing its a different thing or things usually. Nearly all year he has been having probs with his back, bar the first 3 months-ish. He's been ridden all of a dozen times and most of those times all we have done is a little w/t/c work. Sometimes on the bit but only because he did it not because I was asking at that time. Saddle fit is fine. For the rest of the time he's been grazing and resting.

Its so frustrating and upsetting because I know he's in pain all the time and nothing I do seems to help the poor bugger

Any ideas?
     
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    10-08-2008, 09:39 PM
  #2
Banned
What about getting some x-rays of his back if that is the cuplrit of his problems?

I'm so sorry to hear that his back is still bothering him!! I hope he gets feeling all better reallllly soon
     
    10-08-2008, 09:40 PM
  #3
Foal
I am really sorry to hear that, I really can't offer any help, but I am really sorry and hope they are able to figure out what it is.

My Aunt had a high level Dressage horse that was having issues similar to it. They don't know what she did to herself, my aunt had a vet out and chiropractor and everything, and nobody could figure it out. She was 100% sound according to the vet, but her back was all out of whack.
She ended up not being able to fix whatever it was, and retired her to a broodmare.
Now, after having a baby and resting for several years, she is fine to ride.
Who knows what it was!

I hope they're able to find the problem with your poor guy!
     
    10-08-2008, 09:49 PM
  #4
Started
Maybe he is injuring himself like the chiro said. Can you put him in another pasture or stall by himself to see if he straightens out? I don't really know much about horse health...but maybe some bloodwork to rule out disease? Sorry I couldnt be more help...just thinking out loud. Hope he gets better soon.
     
    10-08-2008, 09:50 PM
  #5
Trained
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Originally Posted by SonnyWimps    
what about getting some x-rays of his back if that is the cuplrit of his problems?

I'm so sorry to hear that his back is still bothering him!! I hope he gets feeling all better reallllly soon
yeah that's probably the next step. Weve just had a few massive horse things to pay out so it will have to wait another couple of weeks. But even still I don't know what x-rays are going to pick up that the chiro/mr magic hands can't. When we spoke about x-rays he said we could get them but all they will probably tell us is what is out of whack this time. Although there is a possibility that something will be picked up that may be causing it but that's confusing as well because how could 1 thing cause so many problems unless its something like he has a weak back. He wasnt broken in until he was 6 so im assuming he wasnt backed too early or anything

But yeah I will more than likely still get the x-rays done.
     
    10-08-2008, 09:54 PM
  #6
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Originally Posted by sandy2u1    
maybe he is injuring himself like the chiro said. Can you put him in another pasture or stall by himself to see if he straightens out? I don't really know much about horse health...but maybe some bloodwork to rule out disease? Sorry I couldnt be more help...just thinking out loud. Hope he gets better soon.
unfortunately I can't seperate him at the moment because there is nowhere to seperate him to :) we don't have stalls other than ones for feeding and the rest of the place is 60 acres of open paddocks. Hopefully we are moving in the next couple of months and if we get the place we want he will be able to have his very own paddock

The vet I work for does lameness tests & bloodwork but he is away at the moment and the fill in guy doesnt do that stuff so any of that has had to wait until he gets back. He is back on monday so I am going to talk to him about that as well.
     
    10-09-2008, 01:00 AM
  #7
Green Broke
The first thing that comes to my mind is a bad shoeing/trimming job. I would seriously consider finding another farrier to take a lot at him. You also might consider finding someone who does natural barefoot trimming to take a look at him. I would want 3-4 different people (who comes highly recommended) to evaluate his feet.

If the feet check out okay, and you have the money, I would send him to a vet or vet school that can x-ray him. I would have his whole back, hips, and stifles x-rayed.

I also agree with bloodwork, to rule out disease and possible protozoan issues like EPM.
     
    10-09-2008, 02:23 AM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
The first thing that comes to my mind is a bad shoeing/trimming job. I would seriously consider finding another farrier to take a lot at him. You also might consider finding someone who does natural barefoot trimming to take a look at him. I would want 3-4 different people (who comes highly recommended) to evaluate his feet.

If the feet check out okay, and you have the money, I would send him to a vet or vet school that can x-ray him. I would have his whole back, hips, and stifles x-rayed.

I also agree with bloodwork, to rule out disease and possible protozoan issues like EPM.
he has been barefoot the whole time we have had him his feet are in really good shape

We don't have vet schools here to take horses too that I know of so its normal vet fees all the way but I should get it a little cheaper considering I work for the vet who is going to be doing it
     
    10-09-2008, 03:13 AM
  #9
Weanling
OMG you have just written my story!!! I have been having exacly the same problems with my mare, I'm not talking just similar either.

She was fine at the start of the year then went all sensitive when I clipped her (understandable) but now that her hair has grown back, it's still one chiro visit after another. It's been 6 months now and I've done everything as well, teeth, feet and saddle and no one can figure her out. I'm almost ready to put it down to psycological and that she associated my arena with pain and therefor acts up and hurts herself, as she has worked fine on other arenas.

Like yourself, we are moving soon (it's uncanny the similarities in our stories) so I just have to hang out for another month or so. It wont hurt her to have a break.

I've considered a horse massager, just to see if it might be more muscular than skeletal, eg muscles pushing bones out rather than visa versa, perhaps this is one avenue you can investigate.

Good luck and let me know how you go, our horses sound like twins
     
    10-09-2008, 08:56 AM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by Frog    
OMG you have just written my story!!! I have been having exacly the same problems with my mare, I'm not talking just similar either.

She was fine at the start of the year then went all sensitive when I clipped her (understandable) but now that her hair has grown back, it's still one chiro visit after another. It's been 6 months now and I've done everything as well, teeth, feet and saddle and no one can figure her out. I'm almost ready to put it down to psycological and that she associated my arena with pain and therefor acts up and hurts herself, as she has worked fine on other arenas.

Like yourself, we are moving soon (it's uncanny the similarities in our stories) so I just have to hang out for another month or so. It wont hurt her to have a break.

I've considered a horse massager, just to see if it might be more muscular than skeletal, eg muscles pushing bones out rather than visa versa, perhaps this is one avenue you can investigate.

Good luck and let me know how you go, our horses sound like twins
OMG!!! You're right. That's insanely similar

Its funny you should mention the massage thing too because I spoke to one of the ladies I work with who has horses as well and she gave me a number for a guy who does chiro and muscle therapy. He finds everything and then works through it all. Apparently he books you for a minimum of 4 visits so he can do extra therapy after the initial visit. And he's only $65 a visit. She has 12 horses, many of them rescues and she uses him all the time. I know she is VERY fussy about who she uses for stuff so im thinking I will give this guy a call tomorrow and get him out. She swears by him

So ill see how this guy goes but after that im going to get him x-rayed etc. he better not be putting on lameness to get out of work. If he is he can go out and get a job pulling a cart somewhere to help pay us back all the money we spent trying to find his pain lol


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