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post #1 of 46 Old 04-30-2013, 12:23 AM Thread Starter
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Always tense, eating habits changed, not himself...

Hi,
My boy who is usually a calm, collected, and relaxed man has been going nuts for the past month. It seems to be getting worse and worse! He is a BLM Mustang gelding, UTD on shots, coggins, teeth, floating, and has no pain issues that we can pinpoint. He also has no signs of having an illness. He has been spooking very violently on the ground and under saddle. Which is the first time he has done this in all of the years I have owned him.

Now here's the situation with his surroundings. There are storage units being built 40ft from his corral, and there is a truck stop on the other side. He will take a mouth full of food, then walk a perimeter check around his corral, and repeat. He is eating very slow due to this and seems to almost be eating a bit less. Feed hasn't changed. He is so tense, with his head up that there is no relaxed muscle in his body throughout working him and even grooming sessions.

I have been looking around to see if anyone I know has a game camera that I can borrow, but no luck as of yet.

A fly could land on his rear and he'll spook. ALL of these people could have access to him (there's a 10ft gap in the storage fence and no fence on the other side.) which includes around 20 hispanic and english workers for the units as well as the truckers. He is acting like someone has been beating him, and is so afraid! The whites of his eyes show the majority of the time, and this is VERY rare for him in the past.

I need some suggestions on what to do. I am trying to find another place to board but it might not happen... Could I put him on some kind of relaxation supplement? I am afraid if he keeps up with this he will make himself sick, much less the dangers of me working him at the moment.

I have ask my trainer and she is getting back to me within the next few days.

ANY suggestions are welcome!!

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post #2 of 46 Old 04-30-2013, 12:33 AM
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Magnesium for Horses | Natural Health for Equines
Sounds like that^ could be right.
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post #3 of 46 Old 04-30-2013, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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I might add that he gets MSM and Source Micro nutrients every day with a 1/2cup of Omelene 400, and he has free access to a salt block. Interesting about the Magnesium..
Here's the analysis for source.
LINK I GOT THIS FROM HERE http://www.4source.com/technical/add...ormation.shtml
MACROMINERALS (min. Unless noted as max.)

Sodium 3.5%
Calcium 1.2%
Sulfur 2.1%
Magnesium 0.7%
Potassium 1.5%
Phosphorus 0.1%
VITAMINS

10-140 mg./lb
2-9 mg./lb.


Xanthophyll
K1, Phylloquinone


Beta-carotene
Pantothenic Acid


Choline
Ascorbic Acid


Folic Acid
Biotin


Inositol
Thiamine


B12
Niacin


Pyridoxine, B6
Riboflavin B2

Alpha Tocopherol: 172 I/U/lb
TRACE MINERALS
* =essential
* * = currently considered possibly essential
100-999 ppm
Iodine *
Iron *
Aluminum **
Bromine **
1-99 ppm
Boron **
Barium**
Cobalt *
Selenium *
Manganese *
Antimony**
Vanadium *
Niobin
Zinc *
Silicon*
Gold **
Platinum
Copper *
Lantanum
Chromium *
Tellurium
Titanium **
Germanium**
Cesium **
Nickel *
Fluorine * Rubidium **
40-1,000 ppb (parts per billion)
Strontium *
Thorium
Tungsten **
Cerium
Zirconium
Gallium **
Thallium
Iridium
Rhodium
Lithium **
Uranium
Molybdenum *
Osmium
Radium
Tin *
Bismuth
Palladium **
Beryllium **
Indium
Silver **

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Magnesium for Horses | Natural Health for Equines
Sounds like that^ could be right.
Yeap that's a good idea.

Is the omelene 400 a sweet feed? If it is id ditch it right now. Sweet feed is junk food like feeding candy all day to kids. Id also be concerned about ulcers if he's that nerved up.
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If you click on the link in the article, it goes further into it. I would try filling up his storage, regardless, he'll tell you when he's got enough. You can hardly overdose magnesium and it's missing in feed everywhere.
To refill, you give 40 grams/ day.
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Can you give them the people MG taken out of the capsules?
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You could, but I think that would be a bit expensive. Google MagRestore. That's the more bioavailable form of mg. Usually supplements are magnesium oxide, which gets only partially used by the body. Ideally you would want magnesium chloride, but the MagRestore is as close as it gets.
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I was going to suggest magnesium also and sleep deprivation possibly.
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I am currently using MagRestore on my mare and it is completely worth the money. It's not even expensive. I think I paid like $50 with shipping and I figure with the loading dose I should get about 2 months out of it. With my mare I noticed a difference in a few days and a complete turn around in about 2 weeks.

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I am not discounting feeding him magnesium but my first thought, was his eyesight. Have his eyes been checked? It is possible he is losing his vision for whatever reason.

My second thought, after you explained his living arrangements, is that someone or more than one person is doing something to him.

They don't really have to be physically touching him but there's nothing to say somebody isn't doing something to scare the bejeezus out of him, while they're standing 50 feet from the fence.

It could be anything from dropping something to make a loud noise, to waving something loud and tin-sounding, just to watch his reaction.

I've had my own experiences with people deviling my horses that go clear back to when I was growing up. My horses were on a 100 acres but would come up to the "road fence" to get apples off the trees.

The "rental neighbor's" nasty little kids (I later found out), couldn't wait for them to come up to the fence to tease them.

It would be great if that theory is wrong but eye sight and somebody getting kicks out of watching the horse react are my first two thoughts
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