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        12-20-2012, 10:40 AM
      #11
    Trained
    50 lbs for three horses isn't a whole lot. Their weight seems to be fine, but winter woolies can hide a lot. I would add at least another half a bale a day.

    ETA: I have a Paint and a QH who used to split about 50 lbs a day and they did great with that amount. Roughly, QH's ideal weight is about 700, Paint is 1050, just to give you an idea. And they have been getting free-choice hay for about a year now and they do great with this as well.
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        12-20-2012, 10:41 AM
      #12
    Super Moderator
    Ditto the above posters and ditto the slow feed haynets - believe me they help. You can get them at Chicks for $7.99 each. My first one is still in daily service and it's over two years old.

    Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Slow Feed Small Mesh Hay Bag

    Also the Gray looks on the young side. Even though he looks like he could use another 50 lbs (Paint looks fine:), those bony hips may be there until he matures.

    One of my Walkers is Generator-bred and he had those bony hips until he was around 10 years old You couldn't see his ribs but those hip bones sure stuck out like sore thumbs

    If your neighbor's horses happen to be overweight, she is doing much worse by her horses. She's feeding them straight down the path to metabolic issues. It can be a fine line between not-too-fat and not-too-thin.

    Standlees makes cubed timothy hay, timothy/alfalfa mix and they also make pellets. Tractor Supply sells both.

    You would literally have to weigh cubes or pellets to get the feeding amounts correct. It's one dry pound of cubes or pellets to one pound of hay. After measuring, be sure to thoroughly soak (especially cubes) so nobody chokes

    Good luck
         
        12-20-2012, 11:16 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    Now I am lost with what grain to feed. Originally she was on senior feed but was told to switch to strategy.something to do with EPSM? I was told by my vet it had less sugars and would be better.
         
        12-20-2012, 11:23 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Strategy has some of the highest sugar content of complete feeds.

    http://bevet.com/files/nsclevelsforc...blefeeds_1.pdf

    Desert I think you had a better link at some point??
         
        12-20-2012, 11:43 AM
      #15
    Trained
    Uhm...did I?
    I found a list on another forum. Strategy has 28% NSC(non structural carbohydrates ),
    Grass hay around 13, alfalfa 11, oats 54, just to throw some numbers out there. Ideal would be an overall percentage of 20%, 15% being better. There are other Purina feeds with less NSC, like, to stay with the Strategy line, Strategy Healthy Edge with 18% and a nice fat content for energy.
    Even if hay is hard to find, and expensive, it is needed for gut health.
    Horses are trickle feeders, constantly munching on something, their stomachs are small, produce acid constantly. An empty stomach means the acids start digesting the stomach lining, horse develops ulcers. So, keeping something in there at all times is the way to go. Hence the slowfeeder nets. I used to ground feed hay, basically free choice, until I started weighing how much I put in and how much I raked together next day. Shock!...20-30lbs WASTED. I made nets myself, baling twine works well and is free, left them filled all the time. Now my horses regulated their intake to about 15lbs each, only a handful on the ground, and they look great.
    As I said, for "grain", the Arab gets a handful of alfalfa pellets, soaked, with his supplements, the Quarter, bigger and taller, also the alfalfa with a little over a pound of ricebran and her supplements.
    I have different types of hay, orchard/timothy, oat hay and 3-way(wheat, oat and rye), and every net has a different hay. They do wonder between them, eat a little oat, then go to the o/t, and so on. I'd love to feed o/t only, but I pay pharmacy price, 21$ for a 85lb bale. Oat and 3-way is 10$ for 100lbs.
         
        12-20-2012, 11:50 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    I thought you had a link or maybe it was another member, too many threads for me to remember lol.

    But yes I try to stay closer to the 15%.

    Op- didn't you say the money wasn't the issue? If that is the case you can find hay and good hay at that. I have seen people around here looking for hay and not willing to pay more than $2.50 a bale, which is a bit ridiculous.... so if you can afford it you can find it. Lots of round bales that are all grass around too.
         
        12-20-2012, 11:57 AM
      #17
    Trained
    OP, let's do the math. How much do you pay for a bale of hay and how much for the Strategy?
         
        12-20-2012, 12:10 PM
      #18
    Showing
    OP, look into having it transported to you by semi. I had a load shipped to me recently from PA that only added $2.75 to the price per bale.

    I recommend adding soaked beet pulp to their diet. It's relatively inexpensive and adds weight without the risk of colic.
         
        12-20-2012, 01:13 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    I just got a load of 2nd cutting at 8.50 a bale. And that was a steal. Prices are closer to 12.50 a bale here. And that's for old moldy 1st cutting cow hay. I was feeding a really great 3rd ccutting that my horses loved, but with everyone only getting a 1/3 of their normal yeild that sold out fast. I pay $17 a bag for the Purina strategy. By all means if anyone has another recommendation for grain I am open to suggestions.
         
        12-20-2012, 01:15 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    I currently pay close to $400 a month just to feed my guys. Not counting wormed, Farrier, supplements, mineral blocks, etc.
         

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