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    12-20-2012, 01:20 PM
Green Broke
Have you considered rice bran? If you feed strategy make sure it is strategy healthy edge as desert said. Otherwise I would switch to a senior feed or Nutrena Safechoice is awesome.

Beet pulp is great but I found alfalfa puts weight on the best. I'm currently on the look out for some nice quality alfalfa.

By the way $400 for 3 horses isn't bad. I pay $110 per month for added feed for my girl that doesn't include hay. And I pay board...
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    12-20-2012, 01:28 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by bnayc    
Now I am lost with what grain to feed. Originally she was on senior feed but was told to switch to strategy.something to do with EPSM? I was told by my vet it had less sugars and would be better.
OP, whoa up on everything that's been said, except for the hay part

Which horse has EPSM?

Folks, I know that's a metabolic disorder but isn't it associated with tying up? I have never dealt with this and don't know what to suggest.

Anyone who has, please post what you feed your EPSM horses as I think we all might be giving a little bit of misinformation if one or both of the OP's horses is dealing with EPSM
    12-20-2012, 01:38 PM
Green Broke
It sounds as though the vet was saying because she is a draft to keep it in mind. But Strategy has high sugars so the vet makes no sense.

Managing equine polysaccharide storage myopathy, known as EPSM, in Horses

From what I can tell this horse does not have epsm but to be aware that it could if fed wrong, which IMO strategy is not the right feed for an epsm horse.
    12-20-2012, 01:40 PM
Just calculated what I save on hay using the slowfeeder nets....520lbs a month=10bales=85$ in your case, if you would have fed as I have, free choice.
Difference is, mine are constantly eating, and have no weight problem, and I feed way less grain.
So, let's crunch numbers
A horse can fare well on hay alone, if it's only working lightly, adult, and hay quality is good, which yours seem to be.
They need to eat between 1.5 and 2% of bodyweight.
Guessing here, since I know only breed, not height and condition, the Arab should be around 800, the paint around 1000, and the draft let's say 1400lbs = 3200.
That comes out between 48 and 64lbs of hay a day for all three together.
You're feeding, currently, at the lower end of these amounts.
Keep in mind, tho, these are numbers for hayfeeding ONLY. No sweetfeed necessary.
If everything was perfect, all you would have to add is salt and a vit/min supplement.
    12-20-2012, 01:56 PM
Had to check amounts of strategy you're feeding, so calculate that.
8lbs a day,
That's around 80$ a month, and it's not doing much, plus it's definitely the wrong feed for the draft.
You need to stay low Carb, period.
So, alfalfa pellets, soaked, a handful for the Arab, and for the paint, two handfuls for the draft.
One bag, 40lbs, Standlee, is 13$, lasts a month with these amounts.
Ricebran, get the granules, not the pellets, 15$ difference but same stuff, 25$, 40lbs, 1lb daily for the draft, the other two just a sprinkle. So the bag lasts also a month.
You can add a vit/min supplement, shop around and compare, also online. It's fed by the ounce, so it'll last.
Either invest in the slowfeeder nets or make them, like I did, and you will see a difference.
They're called slowfeeder because the holes are smaller, so they can pull out a strand at a time, eat slower, and longer, and little to no waste(I see you have nets hanging).
They will get used to the small holes within a week or two.
It keeps them busy longer, their stomachs filled, and it's proven that fat horses lose and thin horses gain weight.
    12-20-2012, 03:00 PM
The draft has not been confirmed to have epsm, but when I had the vet out for an emergency she recommended that I put her on a diet to prevent it. That's why she gets corn oil with her grain.
    12-20-2012, 03:13 PM
Good article, poppy!
Okay, let's ditch the ricebran .....too much sugars.
Oil is good, but I wouldn't use corn oil, too many omega-6's, inflammatory. Canola is a better choice. You can also add either ground flax seed or, as I do and absolute swear by, Omega Horseshine.
    12-22-2012, 08:58 PM
Have you wormed them recently ? They could be not putting on as much weight in the right spots if they are wormy.

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