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post #61 of 83 Old 03-04-2014, 01:44 AM
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awesome thank you, I will contact him tomorrow and see what he has to say, I will let you know when he gives me some info, keep your head up and I hope your baby starts to feel better....thats got to hurt like crazy :(
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post #62 of 83 Old 03-04-2014, 11:56 AM
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Just want to say. If you are otherwise happy with the farrier to get him out or send him some pics and demand an explanation. If this happened to my horse I would probably have the farrier out before the vet or at least as well as.

I would ask if HE trimmed the horse or if the apprentice did and demand an explanation. If he gives you a good explanation and sounds legit I would give him a chance to fix what happened. It may not be his fault, or he may of had the apprentice do it (which is not ok that that happened, but if you made it clear that no one other than him was to touch your horse again may be ok to give him another try).

I would at least contact him first and see what he has to say and take it from there. Glad you're trying to get the vet out.
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I agree with Smrobs, it really looks like someone pared the frog clean off. Even these more recent pictures show the poor guy has no cushion left. I suppose if it was only one hoof he could have ripped it off in the pasture somehow. Poor guy!
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Like Khainon, I sent a picture to my mentor. I'll let you know what he says.

In the first picture, is that how muddy his stall is? If so, that could be a lot of the problem. I have seen frogs go red from being so water logged and diseased.

My farrier just textedrme back and said it's hard to tell from the picture, but it may be cankerous. He said he'd do a biopsy and culture of the frog to see what's going on. I'll send him a couple of your more recent pictures to see if they'll give him a better idea.
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Talked to my farrier a bit more. He said the red looks like discoloration from serum(the water in blood). He said everything needs to be checked: temps, pulses, biopsy, culture, and take some radiographs. Let us know what the vet says when he comes out.

My farrier also said he's never seen something like that before, so everyone is stumped for good reason.
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Hmm, do you have a dry area to stand him on for a little while each day? Just to let the airflow get in there, it will be uncomfortable for him unless he has bute or something but the last thing you want to add to the mix now is a bacterial or fungal infection from dampness and warmth that can occur inside the hoof bandages from his body heat.. Do hooves sweat??
Although they won't sweat in the true sense, they might be "sweating" in the way that cheese sweats when you leave it too long in an air tight bag in the fridge - condensation. His hooves will be relatively warm compared to the rest of the atmosphere, so there may be some degree of moisture being trapped between the bootie and his foot, as I'm presuming the boot is watertight.

Not much you can do about it, other than very regular changing, and letting his feet air as much as you can.
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Like Khainon, I sent a picture to my mentor. I'll let you know what he says.

In the first picture, is that how muddy his stall is? If so, that could be a lot of the problem. I have seen frogs go red from being so water logged and diseased.

My farrier just textedrme back and said it's hard to tell from the picture, but it may be cankerous. He said he'd do a biopsy and culture of the frog to see what's going on. I'll send him a couple of your more recent pictures to see if they'll give him a better idea.
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Thanks, the first picture was the corral he is stalled in but it was dry and not muddy when he was stalled in it. The mud was caused from us cleaning out his feet with the hose, then we switched and put him in a drier corral. The red frog actually happened before we got any rain here and it was pretty hot out for spring at 80 degrees outside. So the stalls were bone dry.
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The vet is supposed to be coming out today, right? What is he planning on doing?

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Well the vet came out and it just figures that my moms horse was acting perfect. He was walking normal again and trotting and not colicing, perky as ever....I was like perfect! Now the vet will think we are nuts!

The vet took a look at him. Cleaned out his feet and did a hoof test and said there was nothing wrong with him other than his feet being a little sensitive and his feet are sore.....................

He said his back feet were cut just a little short and his frog was soft so he wanted to harden up his hoof.

He said the frog was there so he did not understand why we said the frog was gone on the phone. As for the red hooves he didn't see a problem. He said it was just a little red but all horses have different feet. We told him this was not his normal color foot and was walking as if to keep weight off his hooves. Like I said our horse was walking normal went the vet came and passed his hoof test fine. He said due to his age it could be his arthritis acting up really badly due to this cold weather we are having (even though it started acting up when it was hot...ok....). And he has been in the wet mud to top everything.

We told him he was on bute right now so he probably was feeling much better due to it. He told us to keep his boots off for he wants to dry out the hooves and for 5 days were are going to have him on bute to see how he is. We will call him after this time to tell him how the horse is doing.

I am very happy my moms horse is feeling better but I am just waiting for a relapse to happen when he is off the bute. Hopefully it is just something like his arthritis so we can just treat him for that. Thanks again everyone for all the help and prayers.

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Good point! If the vet says it was the farrier then he is to blame to even if the apprentice did it. Sad to say for I really liked him. I have had him for a long time and he usually did so well but not going to go threw this again for sure. I have another farrier who I am ready to call and get references from.
I would have called the farrier immediately, not to accuse but to let him know what is going on. You didn't so do it now. They know feet, there may be something he could do.
Stop worrying about the feelings of the farrier! He would want to know.
Sorry to sound so harsh but something needs to be done.

ETA: Sorry, I didn't see your post about the vet. I'd still call the original farrier
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