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    07-26-2012, 07:57 PM
  #21
Foal
Well, I called the vet today.... she said at this time she is not instructing me to pull him off the grass. Just keep him stalled for 12 and out for 12... and she said to keep the grass cut short "if I can"... also NO PEANUT HAY... just "soaked" coastal in his stall...and the quiessence stuff, along with changing him to "safechoice feed".... I am in the process of the feed change now.... I will let him finish his peanut hay (in moderation), guess I can try soaking that too?... only thing I have not started is the quiessence because I am very undecided on that or the chaste tree berries....

Also, the guy at the feed store agrees with the fly mask thing... said that is how he gets a mare in season in jan / feb, through lights... (vet advised against removing flymasks)? But I used swat this am and they looked fine when I got home from work....

Guess I need to keep researching tonight.....
     
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    07-26-2012, 10:37 PM
  #22
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I guess he's not so severe he'd need to be pulled from grass, our pony needs to be otherwise she founders. But I do find it odd that she says to cut it. I'm not surprised what she says about the fly mask, I don't think everyone understands or agrees with the idea about light. But I fully believe it considering my blind horse. You could get him one of those hunter ear nets and see if he'll keep that on to at least protect his ears. Bugs can be as a bad as a winter coat, especially ticks in the ears >.<

Interesting!
Well I still recommend bess's choice or some other Chaste Tree Berry formula - if you haven't you should read the FAQ I posted about Chaste Tree Berry that's more informative than I am - I'm just someone who uses it and it has truly saved this pony's life. She was so severely foundered and overweight when we rescued her. Now she has bad days with her legs when she gets too much grass but she's on a low carb diet and get's Bess's Choice.
     
    07-26-2012, 10:57 PM
  #23
Foal
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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
I guess he's not so severe he'd need to be pulled from grass, our pony needs to be otherwise she founders. But I do find it odd that she says to cut it. I'm not surprised what she says about the fly mask, I don't think everyone understands or agrees with the idea about light. But I fully believe it considering my blind horse. You could get him one of those hunter ear nets and see if he'll keep that on to at least protect his ears. Bugs can be as a bad as a winter coat, especially ticks in the ears >.<

Interesting!
Well I still recommend bess's choice or some other Chaste Tree Berry formula - if you haven't you should read the FAQ I posted about Chaste Tree Berry that's more informative than I am - I'm just someone who uses it and it has truly saved this pony's life. She was so severely foundered and overweight when we rescued her. Now she has bad days with her legs when she gets too much grass but she's on a low carb diet and get's Bess's Choice.
where do you get bess's choice? I have looked all over the inet and can't find it? I emailed that rescue group but they have not answered..... the closest thing I found so far is Balance EQ...

And no, he is not severe at all... in fact only syptoms I would have tied to cushings is the thick fur coat he grows... he has never foundered *knock on wood* and is very healthy except for the non stop thrush (which I was not properly treating) but according to doc, this disease affects their immune system, which makes treating any infection 10 times harder than the "normal" horse....
     
    07-26-2012, 11:11 PM
  #24
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It effects their pituitary gland but yes it does effect their ability to fight infections. The woman who sells Bess's Choice is not internet savy - you gotta call her and leave a message saying you're interested in buying it, then she'll care to call you back - she's so sick of people just calling without reading the FAQ. She's very, very busy so she's only really interested in potential costumers - but it's good to know the money (which is cheap) goes directly to funding those rescues.
     
    07-26-2012, 11:21 PM
  #25
Foal
Ok thanks.... will call tomorrow
     
    07-27-2012, 10:41 AM
  #26
Foal
I noticed my neighbors mare looked like she had cushings, so brought the subject up with him, because she was foundered older horse but he didnt want to do anything drastic just something that would help. He ordered the chasteberry powder online to put in the little bit of grain I told him he needed to cut her to, and the chasteberry worked wonders. I think it was 2 tsps a day I suggested. I have a walker that is showing early signs of metobalism issues (too easy of a keeper) so put him recently on a smartpak called smart IR control I believe, really is showing a slight improvement body chunk wise. I tried the quesineice (Sp?) on him a little over a year ago, and I don't know if it was the magnesium (had to be since that was the highest ingrediant) or what but within four days of that supplement I had one drugged out horse LOL It was like he took too much valium or something. I knew something was up when I had to go look for him at dinner time and he standing under a tree with his lip just hanging on the ground LOL wierdest thing I ever saw. But its also a supplement to calm the more spooky horses so saw results in that manner I guess you could say but had to take him off it ASAP and within a couple days he was back to normal.
     
    07-27-2012, 02:48 PM
  #27
Foal
Hhadavis.... thanks for the tip on quiessence... that worries me because he is already such a laid back good boy.... I am going to go with bess's choice... I called today and hopefully the lady will call back soon.....
     
    07-27-2012, 03:10 PM
  #28
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I just let her know that you're a serious potential customer - not just someone looking to ask all the questions already answered on the FAQ :P So I'm sure she'll get back to you as soon as she's done taking care of the rescues.

Honestly I love Bess's choice - it's a totally safe supplement that we use for all our cushing's horses and even some of our just plain old horses. :)
     
    07-27-2012, 03:35 PM
  #29
Foal
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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
I just let her know that you're a serious potential customer - not just someone looking to ask all the questions already answered on the FAQ :P So I'm sure she'll get back to you as soon as she's done taking care of the rescues.

Honestly I love Bess's choice - it's a totally safe supplement that we use for all our cushing's horses and even some of our just plain old horses. :)
thanks punk.... I would have already ordered it if I could have on her website... I am planning to also give it to my elderly mare...she is stiff and crabby, figure it can't hurt..... one question I have though is, I am giving Rocket horseshoers secret and simplifly (feed thru fly stuff), also give Mariah legacy pellets (joint support), MSM and simplifly.... should I stop all of that when I start them on Bess's choice?
I read on one of these threads regarding feeding... K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stuipid), I LIKE THAT !
I am thinking, safechioce feed, beetpulp, "soaked" hay cubes, "soaked" hay and bess's choice...... but would really like to continue with simplifly? Although read last night that people feed that diamascous (? Spelling) earth as feed thru for flies???
     
    07-27-2012, 06:06 PM
  #30
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If it's in Bess's Choice don't bother giving it to them separate - but MSM is a wonderful supplement - I'd keep up with it. I forget whether Bess's Choice has it added or not. Yes, keeping it simple is important :P
I use Diatomaceous Earth because it's fairly safe when done properly and not a poison. But that's my preference and not everyone agrees.

I know it'd be so much easier if it were online, but she has no computer skills and she has to hand mix all of it herself, so she can't have all too many customers. But there are people around the world who use it and love it! Basically you just send her your checks and she sends out your stuff every as often as you need.
     

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