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    12-07-2012, 11:05 AM
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Trained
Any use quest?

Everytime I go to buy a powerpac, I think about buying quest. Then I read horror stories involving horses that were on a routine worming schedule and properly dosed, and fear gets the better of me. But, lab studies show that fendenazole actually causes more intestinial inflamation. And, quest is more effective, there is no known resistance, but....the fear factor creeps in.

Does anyone use it? Any problems?
     
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    12-07-2012, 11:21 AM
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Banned
I use quest and have never had a problem used quest plus this fall no issues. Only wormer iv had issues with was zimectrin gold. Caused mouth ulcers in all three of my horses. The ulcers were so bad all three quit eating for several days.
     
    12-07-2012, 11:22 AM
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Green Broke
I won't do quest because I have a mini and if you overdose just the slightest but with a mini it will kill them. I buy panacur a powerpac. Alot cheaper then quest, atleast in my area. Quest was almost $100 for a powerpac and panacur was only $62.
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    12-07-2012, 11:34 AM
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Green Broke
We use quest in our worming rotation. Never had a problem to my knowledge. Just like people ever horse is going to react differently to various medications. Nothing is 100% safe. A lot of these medications are neruotoxic and won't effect the horse because its not a toxic dose of the medication. Shove 20 tubes of wormer in a horses mouth, well then you might see signs of neurotoxicity. This article is pretty hand; Understanding anthelmintics . It covers the 3 groups of wormers and how each one effects their target.

What horror stories have you heard of?
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    12-07-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowgirls Boots    
I won't do quest because I have a mini and if you overdose just the slightest but with a mini it will kill them. I buy panacur a powerpac. Alot cheaper then quest, atleast in my area. Quest was almost $100 for a powerpac and panacur was only $62.
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Actually, I didn't know quest made a powerpac, interesting. I always get the panacur powerpac. The quest, for my purposes (just want to ensure encysted strongyles are eliminated), is a lot cheaper - just 10 - 12 bucks, per single dose of quest or the plus.

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Originally Posted by SlideStop    
We use quest in our worming rotation. Never had a problem to my knowledge. Just like people ever horse is going to react differently to various medications. Nothing is 100% safe. A lot of these medications are neruotoxic and won't effect the horse because its not a toxic dose of the medication. Shove 20 tubes of wormer in a horses mouth, well then you might see signs of neurotoxicity. This article is pretty hand; Understanding anthelmintics . It covers the 3 groups of wormers and how each one effects their target.

What horror stories have you heard of?
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There are multiple reports on line from horse owners that have had problems, including death - mostly illness. I discount reports involving mini's, only b/c of the possible dose errror. Clinical studies prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, though, that moxidectin is easier on their intestine and has a higher efficacy..but I do not see any studies that directly challenge the reports of adverse effects. Even if there were no merit to a single report...it still makes one take pause. My horses are a bit chubby, so I feel it makes them more "safe" since it binds to fat....I just wish there were something that made me "know" the risk is no higher than w fendenazole.
     
    12-07-2012, 12:45 PM
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Missy I don't know.
Did a fecal this spring (need another) and the vet had me use Quest. THE NEXT DAY Rick acted all weird, dragging his front left foot, spinning, he just wasn't right you know? Had the vet out, put him in a stall, he got better. Was it the Quest? Was it a freak pasture injury? I still don't know. Haven't used it again, hoping I won't have to. (But it did knock the worms)
     
    12-07-2012, 12:54 PM
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Green Broke
Honestly, if you study and type field that has a research aspect you can skew any data in favor of one thing or another. You have to look at the numbers of the study to see how accurate the study was and look at WHO did the study (if the makers of power pac did the study of course the results will be in their favor). Also, I know for people, if *one* person reports something like dry eyes during a medication trial they MUST list it a side effect of the medication.

The other thing to think about is people are always willing write bad reviews, no one ever posts about how the wormer did its job and their horse is happy and healthy. You have no idea about that horses health status or if the owner even gave a correct does! There are SO many variables when listening to a person self-report a review. I know people who will get up in arms over a loose poop...

To give or not to give is the question and it will ultimately be determined by you but its important to remember to not believe everything you hear. Make your own informed decision.
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    12-07-2012, 12:57 PM
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Green Broke
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Missy I don't know.
Did a fecal this spring (need another) and the vet had me use Quest. THE NEXT DAY Rick acted all weird, dragging his front left foot, spinning, he just wasn't right you know? Had the vet out, put him in a stall, he got better. Was it the Quest? Was it a freak pasture injury? I still don't know. Haven't used it again, hoping I won't have to. (But it did knock the worms)
Classic signs of neruotoxicity as the drug worked its way out of his body.

It's probably better to underestimate the dose then to give a little to much.
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    12-07-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGap    
Missy I don't know.
Did a fecal this spring (need another) and the vet had me use Quest. THE NEXT DAY Rick acted all weird, dragging his front left foot, spinning, he just wasn't right you know? Had the vet out, put him in a stall, he got better. Was it the Quest? Was it a freak pasture injury? I still don't know. Haven't used it again, hoping I won't have to. (But it did knock the worms)
OMG! Poor Rick. See what I mean? It's just spooky. I guess I will do Panacur - even though it is nearly winter, and again in June. Jolene's fecal exam from her "vet visit" showed a few strongyle eggs and nothing else. Double...D it! They both had equimax in mid Nov. Rarity was negative last count - in sand and heat, there is no real "source" to reinfect. But, I suspect Jolene's previous owner, like a lot of owners, just administered the "other" wormers. We'll get Jolene in shape...I hope I can at least afford to keep putting sugar on my oatmeal after all is said and done...I already cut out the butter.
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    12-07-2012, 01:13 PM
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Weanling
I have never had an issue with it..and I have wormed ponies as well as horses and an emmaciated mule with the stuff (with out the use of a weight tape). Nobody died or had weird side effects.

I know it does have a smaller window of over dose than other wormers so you have to be cautious with it ( think its only twice the dose amount whereas other wormers usually run in the 3x dose amount)...but any medication, herb or hell even feed has the potential to mess your horse up. Worming a heavily infested horse causing massive parasite death can be hard on a horse..how do we know this wasn't the culprit in some of the bad review cases? Or people grossly over estimating a horses weight thus giving them too much.
     

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