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        04-06-2009, 12:45 AM
      #21
    Weanling
    All you have to do to check status on sire and dam is check with the AQHA to see if they have been tested.
         
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        04-06-2009, 02:00 AM
      #22
    Trained
    I only posted that other breeds were at risk because some people think that ONLY QH's and Paints can get it. The statement that eastowest copied wasn't on the website when I had read it. Honestly, I posted a blog on MySpace about this MONTHS ago and just copied it over, so there may be updates that I'm not aware of. I stand by what I said though, any horse with QH Impressive in it's blood could be at risk, as in there is a POSSIBILITY that the horse may have it. I didn't say all horses with Impressive blood had the disease, just that it's POSSIBLE. I think it's too extreme to start avoiding breeds altogether because they could just possibly have it. Like a few people said, a simple test is all it takes.
         
        04-06-2009, 08:32 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    >>>>> I only posted that other breeds were at risk because some people think that ONLY QH's and Paints can get it. The statement that eastowest copied wasn't on the website when I had read it. Honestly, I posted a blog on MySpace about this MONTHS ago and just copied it over, so there may be updates that I'm not aware of. I stand by what I said though, any horse with QH Impressive in it's blood could be at risk, as in there is a POSSIBILITY that the horse may have it. I didn't say all horses with Impressive blood had the disease, just that it's POSSIBLE.

    I am not trying to make this a big deal, honestly-- I am just trying to point out how to accurately share information and reduce confusion/misinformation/rumors/panic and etc.

    Your ORIGINAL post I was responding to said this: (quoting you directly-- highlights mine)

    HyPP isn't restricted to just QH's and Paints either, it says Arabians, Appaloosas, Pintos and other stock breeds may be at risk. Any horse that has Impressive in it's bloodlines. Here is the website I got most of my information from, I found it really informative.

    "It" (the web site you got info from) was not accurate about HYPP in Arabians. Arabians are NOT at risk, as no purebred Arabian ever traces to the QH Impressive. HALF Arabians that trace to him MAY be at risk. "It" has some good info, but also some bad info, as well as using some pretty emotionally charged language.

    I sent links to two websites I would trust for accurate, up to date info-- UC Davis (where HYPP was discovered, where the test was first offered, and is still offered) and AQHA (they fund research on HYPP -- this particular mutation traces its source to a horse in their registry and AQHA marks HYPP test results on QH Impressive descendants' papers).

    You also didn't originally specify that the "Impressive" you were talking about was the AQHA registered Impressive. I see you are saying "QH Impressive" now. That's good!

    Accuracy--this is all I was trying to get to.
         
        04-06-2009, 09:47 PM
      #24
    Started
    Any horse can get HYPP it is a mutated gene which can happen to any horse!!! So if you have a non-Impressive horse that is SHOWING signs GET IT CHECKED!!
         
        04-07-2009, 02:04 AM
      #25
    Trained
    Eastowest...

    My original post said... "traced back to a champion AQHA stud Impressive." I thought I had made that clear. Why would I switch to an entirely different horse of an entirely different breed in the midst of the post? Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the human ability to actually read what I wrote. It seems you saw more in my words than was even there. You added your own, like Arab registries and all that. I never said a purebred Arab could get it. I said an Arab could get it, IF it was crossed with Impressive, which is an entirely accurate statement. I posted later too, saying that the only reason that part was in my original post was so people would understand that HyPP can occur in other breeds, it's not strictly a QH or Paint disease. The only possibly inaccurate statement I made was that Impressive died from it. It was my understanding that he did, but who really knows? So I took it back. If you wanted to add your own information that's fine, but it stands to reason that a non-purebred Arab cannot be registered to the Arab registry. There's an entirely seperate half-Arab registry. Everything you posted in this thread was a challenge.

    And Peggy, yes, it can happen to any horse, but so far as I know it's just the Impressive line that's getting the disease. That might not be true, but I'm pretty sure. =|
         
        04-07-2009, 09:31 AM
      #26
    Started
    Yes it traces to Impressive (AQHA) but they have no clue where he got it or why it happened... I know several "grade" horses one with KNOWN bredding of NO Impressive that have had it... the others who knows but they weren't built to be an impressive horse they tend to have a very distinct head and eye ..
         
        04-07-2009, 10:47 AM
      #27
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
    And I said any horse with Impressive in it's blood could be at risk.
    Wrong.

    PLEASE research more before you post 'facts'.
         
        04-07-2009, 10:59 AM
      #28
    Trained
    RIGHT. It's a genetic disease, and an N/H horse, like Impressive, [the QH Impressive in case you weren't paying attention] has a 50% chance of passing it down to it's offspring, even if the horse breeds with an N/N horse. It's a dominant gene, so if he passes it down, the offspring now has it and will also have a 50% chance of passing it down. And so on and so forth. If a foal doesn't get passed the genes, then it's going to be fine, and it's offspring will be fine, unless again crossed with an N/H horse. So yes, mls, any horse with Impressive in its blood could be at risk. That doesn't mean it could randomly start showing symptoms when it doesn't have it, nor does is mean that all Impressive horses have the disease. But it's possible. I put information out there so owners would know it IS possible. Just because a horse with the disease hasn't shown symptoms yet doesn't mean it won't ever show symptoms. You can manage their diet but you can't control the potassium its body makes, so it could still have an attack, although it's much less likely.
         
        04-07-2009, 11:02 AM
      #29
    Trained
    Oh, and Peggy, that makes sense. I have just only ever heard it in the Impressive line. I've never heard that Impressive created the disease, just that that's who the traced it back to. Maybe they just weren't able to trace it back further?
         
        04-07-2009, 11:09 AM
      #30
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
    RIGHT. It's a genetic disease, and an N/H horse, like Impressive, [the QH Impressive in case you weren't paying attention] has a 50% chance of passing it down to it's offspring, even if the horse breeds with an N/N horse. It's a dominant gene, so if he passes it down, the offspring now has it and will also have a 50% chance of passing it down. And so on and so forth. If a foal doesn't get passed the genes, then it's going to be fine, and it's offspring will be fine, unless again crossed with an N/H horse. So yes, mls, any horse with Impressive in its blood could be at risk. That doesn't mean it could randomly start showing symptoms when it doesn't have it, nor does is mean that all Impressive horses have the disease. But it's possible. I put information out there so owners would know it IS possible. Just because a horse with the disease hasn't shown symptoms yet doesn't mean it won't ever show symptoms. You can manage their diet but you can't control the potassium its body makes, so it could still have an attack, although it's much less likely.
    WRONG. NOT EVERY Impressive bred horse is at risk. If they are N/N, they are N/N.

    You make a statement and back track after someone argues with you. There are those of us who interact with this disease on a frequent basis that would prefer those who only know bits and pieces from internet searches to LET IT GO.
         

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