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post #11 of 45 Old 12-12-2009, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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post #12 of 45 Old 12-13-2009, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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Hi do you think it would be a good expierement to try no grain for a week or so to see if it is making him hot? And is speedi beet avalible in Canada?

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I just feed hay to my horses. I feed sweet feed if I am riding really hard only on the days I ride and only to the horse I am riding. 99% of horses are overfed for the work they are doing.
We do the same, except we feed SafeChoice instead of sweet feed, only when our mares are worked, otherwise good hay only. Good for the digestion, teeth, and keeps them busy; simple and natural has always worked the best for us.

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Hi do you think it would be a good expierement to try no grain for a week or so to see if it is making him hot? And is speedi beet avalible in Canada?
Take it away a little at a time so that his body will have an easier time adjusting. But yeah, take him off it and see how he does.

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Your horse will need an adjustment period for changing any feed. Depending on how much you are actually working him, you probably don't need to be feeding him anything other than a good quality hay and free choice minerals/water.
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post #16 of 45 Old 12-13-2009, 10:54 AM
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My horse eat Sweet feed EVERY night!!! Their FINE.i would suggest mixing it in with your food and sweet feed together and see is they like that.if they do try sweet feed alone.Ifthey don't like it,mix it together like before and feed them that.
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Hi do you think it would be a good expierement to try no grain for a week or so to see if it is making him hot?
Keep in mind I'm no expert. I'm only a student. I am only regurgetating what I've learned from the experts which have walked on both sides of the track. I don't like to learn from people that only choose to look at one side of the coin. It makes em unable to distinguish truth from a sea of hogwash.

Yes, and I also think you should try it for an entire year, and then the rest of the horses life.

A quick question. Does your horse have rings around the hoof wall? I'm just curious. I've read and heard that feeding a horse an improper diet will never allow you to grow a proper hoof on the horse. You'll always have white line seperation. That's what I've been learning anyhow. Some people have said that you can look at the hoof wall and see rings which were formed from the diet. And if the diet has always been improper the hoof wall will just seperate from the coffin bone and create lamellar wedge.

Simply put. Horses were not designed for grain or sweet feed. They were designed to forage on low nsc grass throughout the day which is high in fiber. It's harmful for the horse to be fed grain and sweet feed. You CAN feed it to em, but in the end the horse will pay for it.

You came asking for suggestions. I can only suggest to learn from those that are experts and that have chose to ask questions from the accepted norm. www.safergrass.org

Here's a site if you check out the pics you can see the hoof wall seperating from the coffin bone. www.hoofrehab.com You can also see pics of the ring around the hoof wall I'm talking about.

Also check out this site. Jake, 12 yr QH Gelding The left front april 2009 picture shows a good pic with rings in the hoof wall. I didn't even know it but that horse was on an improper diet. I was only trying to find a pic to show the rings, but lo and behold, it says the horse was fed an improper diet.
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Like the others, I believe it's a good idea to try and wean your horse off the sweet feed. Especially if you're having some behavioral issues with him. Do it slowly over a period of 1-2 weeks (depending on how much he is getting). If he starts to lose weight up the amount and quality of his hay first. You always want to max out on forage before adding any grain.

If you cannot find beet pulp I've had success adding rice bran to the diet if they need extra energy. Don't feed straight "regular" rice bran though, it'll throw your Ca:P ratio way off. Get a stabilized variety, I have a triple crown brand that I've seen good results with.
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Ok hello I have talked to my riding teacher he said I should take him off the sweet feed and get some crushed oats give him a handful when I ride and leave it at that.

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Keep in mind I'm no expert. I'm only a student. I am only regurgetating what I've learned from the experts which have walked on both sides of the track. I don't like to learn from people that only choose to look at one side of the coin. It makes em unable to distinguish truth from a sea of hogwash.

Yes, and I also think you should try it for an entire year, and then the rest of the horses life.

A quick question. Does your horse have rings around the hoof wall? I'm just curious. I've read and heard that feeding a horse an improper diet will never allow you to grow a proper hoof on the horse. You'll always have white line seperation. That's what I've been learning anyhow. Some people have said that you can look at the hoof wall and see rings which were formed from the diet. And if the diet has always been improper the hoof wall will just seperate from the coffin bone and create lamellar wedge.

Simply put. Horses were not designed for grain or sweet feed. They were designed to forage on low nsc grass throughout the day which is high in fiber. It's harmful for the horse to be fed grain and sweet feed. You CAN feed it to em, but in the end the horse will pay for it.

You came asking for suggestions. I can only suggest to learn from those that are experts and that have chose to ask questions from the accepted norm. www.safergrass.org

Here's a site if you check out the pics you can see the hoof wall seperating from the coffin bone. www.hoofrehab.com You can also see pics of the ring around the hoof wall I'm talking about.

Also check out this site. Jake, 12 yr QH Gelding The left front april 2009 picture shows a good pic with rings in the hoof wall. I didn't even know it but that horse was on an improper diet. I was only trying to find a pic to show the rings, but lo and behold, it says the horse was fed an improper diet.
I have also heard about the rings. My farrier said he has the best feet he has ever seen so I don't think he has any rings.

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