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    09-19-2012, 01:01 AM
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Yearling
Bad, bad luck... Sarcoids on Whiskey...

About three weeks ago I had to get a health cert to show my mare, Whiskey, at fair. At the check my vet noticed a "bug bite" on her neck, but worried that it might be a sarcoid, not a bite. This mare is my beloved show mare and I was heartsick...but couldn't focus on it until she finished her last shows for the season.

So we got done with the shows, and vet came back out to reassess, and by then I had found a smaller than dime size one on her cheek, and a tiny one on her poll, right by her forelock between her ears. We decided to treat the one on her neck with XXTerra, and we are now on day 6, she has 4 days of getting treated with the cream, and 4 off, then repeat until gone. I got to tell you, this is making me crazy... it looks terrible, but it isn't sloughing off - the skin just feels rock hard, like old dried out leather, and it is hot and very tender to her. Bless her, she lets me treat it, but is very, very sensitive. We are going to watch her reaction to this one before treating her cheek (her jaw), and the tiny one on her poll we are thinking we will sedate her and cut out so she doesn't get headshy.

I am praying we get this now and get it all. Wish us luck.

The first Pics are us at fair, she picked up her first halter points, it really wasn't noticeable when I oiled it up... the next are her sarcoid at day one and day four after treatment. I will post more pics as we continue treatment.

The hardest part is dealing with the fact that this can disfigure her perrmanently, and this year we earned 14 amt and 33 open solid paint bred points before I had to stop showing to treat it... such a promising beginning... and she is only four years old...
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    09-19-2012, 10:11 AM
  #2
Yearling
So sorry you're going through this. I don't show my horse, so I don't have nearly the same consequences you're worried about, but I've been dealing with sarcoids all summer as well. This thread has been chronicling my progress with treatment, although we've backed off until later this month when the flies are finally gone. I'll be using Aldara as treatment, but I know that a lot of people have success with XXterra. Just remember that now that you've started treating, you can probably expect more to pop up in other places near the original sites.

Check out this blog about a woman who was dealing with them on her mule's ears. She did have pretty good luck with treatment and limited scarring.
     
    09-19-2012, 01:50 PM
  #3
Green Broke
I have been dealing with sarcoids as well. I will not use Xterra again as Hunter seemed to have a reaction to it. He had the first one by his eye and another spot that looked like one so we treated those and then he had more on his cheek, which again I treated with xterra. Had a different vet out recently and he said that 2 of them were returning. I am not sure what he used but it was a one-time treatment and seems to be getting rid of them. I will take new pictures tonight at barn. The good news is that his hair seems to be growing back on the one on the side of his face. Poor guy I sure hope he doesn't get any more.
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    09-19-2012, 03:26 PM
  #4
Started
Nooo ): Poor Whiskey <3
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    09-19-2012, 07:02 PM
  #5
Yearling
Here in the UK my vet used something called Liverpool Cream (apparently it was developed at the University of Liverpool) on a sarcoid. The area swelled up and got hot, but nothing a little bute couldn't solve. The sarcoid disappeared in a much cleaner way than seen in the above pictures.

I have also heard rumours that Crest toothpaste works.

I have to be honest -- when I read the title of the post, I thought someone had discovered that putting whiskey on sarcoids, it cures them. :) That would be amazing.
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    09-19-2012, 10:07 PM
  #6
Yearling
Thanks for your support, guys, it means alot. I am on the third day of the 4 days off part and it doesn't look much different from the picture. Hunter, I had been researching the net on sarcoids and your boy came up, so I was able to prepare myself for what should/could happen - I have been waiting for it to slough off - but so far nothing but the swelling and hardening.

The vet tells me (and recommends) that I should breed her, this isn't hereditary - likely a cattle wart virus (bovine papilloma) and her immune system was compromised when an infected fly landed on her... her show career for me may be over, but at least we were able to prove her in the ring. And if she doesn't scar too badly she will still by my daughter's 4H horse...and our trail horse, and our pony horse, and our cow sorting pony... we'll just have to wait and see... the vet says if we can shrink it down, he may be able to cut and stitch the area and clean it up enough that I can show her at APHA shows again - I am very hopeful for that.
     
    09-20-2012, 09:59 AM
  #7
Foal
My trail horse had a rapidly growing sarcoid at the top of his ear and two other smaller sarcoids on his face and shoulder. The sarcoid on his ear required laser surgery and the procedure was performed at Purdue University. He has a bit of a "notch" on the ear, but there has been no recurrence. The other sarcoids were also surgically shaved and healed well.
     
    09-20-2012, 10:01 AM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
I have also heard rumours that Crest toothpaste works.
I asked a vet at the University of Minnesota about her opinion on this, and she said that there was no medical evidence it worked. That said, I know individual people have had success with it. There's a thread on here somewhere called "Toothpaste Experiment," which documents how it worked for one member's horse.
     
    09-20-2012, 11:54 AM
  #9
Weanling
Your mare is a beauty! My gelding has an Occult Sarcoid on the side of his face near his eye - it became active some years back and my Vet gave me 5-FU (a Chemo cream) to use (can't remember the medical name) - anyhow, it made a TOTAL mess of the Sarcoid - I had to go through a second treatment (my Vet said just in case....) and yet ANOTHER mess. FINALLY the treatment was over and it was on to the healing process. After the 5-FU she had me begin using an antibiotic ointment and after that I used Vitamin E oil on the area and hair actually grew back. You can still see the Sarcoid though and the hair that re-grew is darker. I know what you are going through. I hope everything works out well for your mare. BEST OF LUCK!!!!! In case you may be interested, there is a Company (WONDERFUL people to deal with!) - FOR LOVE OF THE HORSE. I used one of their products - the immune booster - which is forumlated to help eliminate sarcoids. I do believe in the product. I wish I had found out about it before the chemo cream - the immune booster works on all types of Sarcoids.
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    09-20-2012, 12:20 PM
  #10
Green Broke
[QUOTE=Luv 2 Trail;1690612]Your mare is a beauty! My gelding has an Occult Sarcoid on the side of his face near his eye - it became active some years back and my Vet gave me 5-FU (a Chemo cream) to use (can't remember the medical name) - anyhow, it made a TOTAL mess of the Sarcoid - I had to go through a second treatment (my Vet said just in case....) and yet ANOTHER mess. FINALLY the treatment was over and it was on to the healing process. After the 5-FU she had me begin using an antibiotic ointment and after that I used Vitamin E oil on the area and hair actually grew back. You can still see the Sarcoid though and the hair that re-grew is darker. I know what you are going through. I hope everything works out well for your mare. BEST OF LUCK!!!!! In case you may be interested, there is a Company (WONDERFUL people to deal with!) - FOR LOVE OF THE HORSE. I used one of their products - the immune booster - which is forumlated to help eliminate sarcoids. I do believe in the product. I wish I had found out about it before the chemo cream - the immune booster works on all types of Sarcoids.[/QUOTE


I will definitely be looking them up!
     

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