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post #11 of 33 Old 06-19-2008, 07:20 AM
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None of my babies have ever been shod, and they handle the terrain here easily. We don't have a barefoot trimmer round these parts so I trim them myself. I think I've been doing a pretty good job with them, except I've never bevelled them before.
I should get some pics so you can tell me how they are looking.
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post #12 of 33 Old 06-19-2008, 08:33 AM
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Actually, there is no difference in the quality of white vs dark hooves. The white just shows the damage much more vividly.
Trust me, in the summer, all the hooves get hard as nails around here, white or black and in the winter, they all soften up as it stays damp.

The only difference is genetics in each horse, not hoof. There can be soft black hooves and hard white ones.

I think a good example of this is hooves that are multi colored. Appaloosas esp. Since they have striped hooves. They don't just chip where the light stripes are, and they don't split where the black meets white. Im pretty sure if there was a difference in the quality from color, the striped/multicolored hooves would split right at the juncture of the two colors. It would be like sewing heavy leather onto soft cloth. The soft cloth would rip at the stitches, while the leather remained intact. Yet, I don't ever see a hoof do this.

I DO see a difference from horse to horse, kept at the same barn, same feed program, same hoof color. It also can depend on the shoe factor. I've seen horses have different quality of horn in fronts vs hinds, and the only difference being that the fronts were always shod from an early age, and the hinds weren't. I have noticed a difference in hoof quality, overall in horses that were shod consistently from an early age (2yrs-3yrs old) vs ones that didn't have the first set of shoes until after maturity. Not only do they tend to have thinner walls, but narrower feet in general. My advice on that is if you feel that shoes are necessary, please wait as long as you can to start on a young horse.
Thanks for explanation. Chloe got her first known pair of she's when she was 6 and now every year since. She just gets really tender on the front without them and have talked to different people and they said to put shoes on... never tried the barefoot trimmer. I might start ti try it this fall when the shoes don't get put back on this fall. My 5 year old mare is still barefoot and hasnt had any problems so she is going to stay that way. Thanks for the help and have a great day (great web site too!!!)


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post #13 of 33 Old 06-19-2008, 03:45 PM Thread Starter
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Kitten Val,
Boots can be GREAT tools! For brands, it really just depends on what type of riding you do and the shape of your horse's feet. The only brand that I distinctly dislike is Davis (although I LOVE their soaking boots!!) . They just don't work. But most of the other brands are fine, all have good points and bad. I can make recomendations per situation.

Angel Leaguer,
It DOES take some adjusting if they've been shod, so if you want to go without shoes, pick a time when you will not plan to ride as much to let the horse get used to it on their own. Usually that's winter time, but if you were planning on riding all winter, but were going on a month long vacation in the summer, with no competiton right after, go ahead and pull shoes. Boots (if you aren't showing) can keep you from missing any rides anyways, and some competitons it doesn't matter if you want to use the boots. Though most arenas are soft enough you can ride without boots, even if you just pulled the shoes.

Glad to help explain things to you guys. Thanks for the compliments on the website! That's my first attempt at making one, and I'm computer illiterate for the most part!
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post #14 of 33 Old 06-19-2008, 11:16 PM
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Barefoothooves....Thank You Thank You Thank You! I really appreciate the lengthy and well written and explained post that you took the time to write. My farrier is the only one in our area that does barefoot trims and I wanted another opinion. You said almost to the letter what she (farrier) did.

My farrier also suggested putting rocks the length of the horses body around the water trough so that they would have to get all 4 feet on the rocks to get a drink. To be perfectly honest...lol...I was being lazy and didn't want to haul all that rock. (this was what she suggested for their pen) We have since let the horses out on the larger 6 acre pasture where the cattle were previously and there is nothing but rock arount the water tanks. I can tell the difference already...its been about 3 weeks. The horses are running harder and faster in the pasture and not missing a beat. Dumas was only sore about a week with his bruise...is that normal? Any ways... I thought the rocks near the water idea was bologna at first...now I'm a believer!

Yesterday we had the horses up in the yard and they decided to run back into the pasture (we left the gate open for them) They both ran full tilt back into the pasture on the gravel drive...even once they got into the pasture with knee high grass they kept at it about 100 yards past the gate on the gravel. I am really excited about the barefoot way. Thanks again for all the great advice! 8)

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post #15 of 33 Old 06-20-2008, 12:26 AM
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Hmm, my trainer trims hooves and hasn't been trained for barefoot cuts, but does exaclty what you say anyway.... I told him about I like a month ago and he thought it was interesting and said he already did that and he learned just from working w/ horses..... it's pretty amazing though, and I hope he will teach me....
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Kitten Val,
Boots can be GREAT tools! For brands, it really just depends on what type of riding you do and the shape of your horse's feet. The only brand that I distinctly dislike is Davis (although I LOVE their soaking boots!!) . They just don't work. But most of the other brands are fine, all have good points and bad. I can make recomendations per situation.
Thanks a lot! Actually I use easyboot bare on my qh. But my paint has really weird hoofs: wider than longer (I mean width is more than length, like she's #1 for easyboot in length, but #3 in width ). So I can't think of the brand, which would work for such. Can you recommend something may be?
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post #17 of 33 Old 06-20-2008, 06:56 AM
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Have you tried the inserts for the boots??
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post #18 of 33 Old 06-20-2008, 10:05 AM
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Actually, I didn't think of inserts. I'll check the site for sure. Thanks!
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Kitten Val,
I find that Cavallo boots are GREAT for round, wide feet. They tend to slip more on narrow, boxy feet.
Pros: VERY easy off/on , easy to clean, wonderful drainage holes if you cross water a lot is a plus, and you can still use easycare pads in them, just cut them differently (if you ever used the pads for any reason). Durable. No traction problems on terrain.
Cons: since they come above the hairline, there IS more chance for rubbing, but my clients that have them, use the pastern wraps and swear that eliminates the problem and these gals are serious trail riders in all terrain. Also, they look a bit clunky and twist if they don't fit.

The Epics/bares are better for more oval/boxy feet, in my experience. Boas are made by the same company, and are more similar to cavallos in style, but the shape is better for narrower feet, as well, plus the cables can snap, and there is a cap that can pop off and get lost pretty easy. Still a good boot for foundered horses, and if you don't hit the rough country.
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post #20 of 33 Old 06-20-2008, 02:39 PM
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Thanks for all the info, Barefoothooves! It's very interesting. I'm a huge advocate for keeping horses barefoot whenever possible.
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