Originally Posted by RiosDad
they were invented because war horses were having problems, not because of poor stabling but because of excess wear. There are many books on the horse shoe , when it was beleive to have been invented and why and nothing has to do with stabling and everything to do with wear.
Shoes have been dated back to 1500 BC and invented by the Egyptions or Persians
Please teach me more. I went searching for incidences of horseshoes in 1500bc. It seems my knowledge is limited to only what I can find on the internet. I no longer have library access, but the library is limited too, that's why I prefer the internet. The only references to horseshoes I've read about were from the internet. And here's a few quotes that came from what I've read.
There is very little evidence of nailed-on shoes prior to AD 500 or 600, though there is speculation that the Celtic Gauls were the first to nail on metal horseshoes. The nailed iron horseshoe first appeared in the archaeological record in Europe about 5th century A.D. When a horseshoe, complete with nails, was found in the tomb of the Frankish King Childeric I at Tournai, Belgium. The earliest clear written record of iron horseshoes is a reference to "crescent figured irons and their nails" in AD 910.
Xenophon, a fourth century BC Greek cavalry commander, who wrote "naturally sound hooves get spoiled in most stalls," and included the instruction that their hooves should be toughened by putting a cobblestone area in their paddock,
I also recall that Pete Ramey who used to run a business of horse sight seeing used to have shod horses. He stated that he used the horses so much that he would have to reshoe em in like half the time. "I would need to watch him talking again to find the exact length of time. But I would need to find it first." And he was saying that in that short amount of time that the shoes were worn so thin that he just HAD to put on new shoes. And he stated he never believed in all the barefoot crap until he learned and experienced it. He stated that he didn't think they could manage the wear, because of how quickly the shoes wore out.
And that's all the evidence that I've learned so far. I'm always willing to learn too. The only way to learn is to become humble. And perhaps I'm not staying humble. Maybe I've felt I've learned all I can learn about shoes? Maybe I think there's a better alternative? I dunno. Humble me. Show me that I'm close minded and not willing to learn. Show me my errs. As far as all the knowledge I've come across from experienced people who have walked both sides of the tracks goes; barefoot has it's numerous benefits. And shod has nothing but shortcomeings. But again maybe I think I've found the best way and have become ignorant?
As far as ice goes. I've only read about barefoot horses being more sound on ice once. I've yet to find a second point of evidence from a second source. That's why I was asking too though, I've kinda assumed you dealt with lots of ice. Though I thought it was ice rinks for some reason. And nope I've never experienced it. Not like that. But if it's all about the horses health like some have stated then why not boots? Wouldn't it be better for em when they were going to work on ice, simply because of hoof function, to be able to be in boots? Now if they are going to stand on a hillside of ice all day and night I totally understand the point of shoes. Though nevertheless I wouldn't agree with standing em on ice 24/7 on a hillside. But still I can understand it. Yet if they only come in contact with the ice on occasions when one is playing with em, and if it's about horse health I can only suggest learning about hoof function and hoof boots with studs. I've only heard good things about em.
And for anyone considering taking their horses barefoot. It will most likely take time for the horse to develop a proper hoof. It will take time to build adequate sole thickness. It will take time for the hoof wall to grow down attached fully to the coffin bone. It will take time and patience. Hoof function ensures that the horse will have a smooth transition. One cannot simply put on a barefoot trim because that's the "model" and expect their horse to do well. It all needs to be done slowly so the horse will have heel first landings. If one has a barefoot trim and the horse is toe walking then it's likely that too much was done too soon. Heel first landings are what are required. And if you compromise that for trimming a hoof that looks like the "model" then you sacrafice any progress. One will only be going backwards by trying to go forward too fast. It takes time and knowledge. And the will to feed a proper diet, and provide an adequate enviroment are all a part of it. One without the other is like a car without an engine. Sure the car is pretty and useful, but it aint going to go no where without it's horsepower. There is much to learn about proper barefoot horses. It's more than just a trim that follows a "model". It's more like a way of careing for the horse.