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    01-26-2011, 01:13 PM
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Foal
Bartlett feed & death of horse

Have you had a horse to colic and/or die after eating Bartlett Milling feed? I had 3 horses to colic with one dying within hours of eating Bartlett Feed. My university vet hospital and my local equine vet both blamed the feed. I have not had a single episode of colic on my farm in over 20 years. All three of these horse were 2 to 3 yrs old and in top physical condition. I believe I received a contaminated bag of feed from Bartlett. I am looking for others who have had this happen. Bartlett refuses to accept any responsiblity.
     
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    01-26-2011, 01:15 PM
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It sounds like a load of conjecture.

Have you had the feed tested to see if it has contaminates of some kind in it?

Way too circumstantial to blame the feed.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:17 PM
  #3
Foal
I am not a vet, just going by what all these other specialists are telling me.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:17 PM
  #4
Trained
Agree. Get the feed tested. They can easily find out if that bag was contaminated.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:21 PM
  #5
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Agree with AB and MN.

It could have been the feed, or it could have been something else. You won't know if the feed had anything wrong with it unless you have it tested for contaminants.

I'm surprised any vets would give you a definitive answer without knowing themselves whether or not the feed had something wrong with it. They're potentially opening themselves up to libel lawsuits from Bartlett, if they don't have concrete proof.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:25 PM
  #6
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Just to give you some other thoughts. Those horses might have been fed from the same bale of hay and there might have been some form of contamination in it. Or who is to say that those horses did not get missed at morning watering time? Or maybe there is a weed out there that only those horses chose to eat?
     
    01-26-2011, 01:25 PM
  #7
mls
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
I'm surprised any vets would give you a definitive answer without knowing themselves whether or not the feed had something wrong with it. They're potentially opening themselves up to libel lawsuits from Bartlett, if they don't have concrete proof.
This. Many years ago we had two horses colic at the same time with the same symptoms, etc. The doctors tested everything they could think of and had us bring samples of feed, hay, water, bedding etc in to determine the culprit. However they had no absolute without a doubt proof of the cause and were unable to make a statement in writing.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:54 PM
  #8
Foal
"Common causes of colic in mutiple horses include abrupt changes in feed type or amount, increased fermentable carbohydrates in the feed, or contamination of the feed." There were no feed changes, 2 horses were in barn, one in lot, no weeds (or acorns, ect) around, hay was ruled out as one horse in lot did not get any hay, while others got hay and did not get sick. University vets also ruled out hay. My horses are NEVER out of clean, fresh water. Barn is located behind gated entrance, no outsiders on property, same person feeding and on schedule. Horses had never coliced or been ill before. Bag was consumed before we thought it could be the problem, so we could not test feed. Lot numbers on bags are usually smeared from Bartlett, (they use an ink that smears easily) so there is no way to confirm which lot. We do know we had 2 different lots. This was a gas colic, not impaction.
I do know (from Bartlett sales rep, that Bartlett Killed a herd of goats last year and had to pay for them because of their feed.
I am just looking for others who have fed this feed and had a problem. Thank you.
     
    01-26-2011, 02:03 PM
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So only these horses were fed this lot of feed? No other horse at all on the property was fed it?

Change is weather is also a very common cause of multiple horses having colic at the same time.
     
    01-26-2011, 02:14 PM
  #10
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Originally Posted by lee1995    
I do know (from Bartlett sales rep, that Bartlett Killed a herd of goats last year and had to pay for them because of their feed.
Really? A current Bartlett sales rep told you this? I'm sure his/her employer would be very interested to find out what he/she is saying behind their back.

I researched Bartlett, and the only court case I could find was one in which they were selling a type of unauthorized pesticide. The case was brought against them by the state Ag department, not private farmers. Bartlett admitted neither blame nor innocence, but settled the case. I imagine to get it over and done with. Seems their paperwork wasn't in proper order, and they couldn't produce the authorization to sell the pesticide.

I'm very sorry for you that your horse died, but unless your vets are willing to put it in writing that it was definitely the Bartlett feed that caused the animal's death, and swear to it in a court of law, I think you're up a creek without a paddle. Vets just don't blurt out that they know for certain that it was this one particular thing and no other, unless they have absolute proof. Which you say can't be produced, since the feed was completely consumed.

You may think we're being mean and insensitive, but even a first year law student can see that you have no case and no proof.
     

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