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    10-11-2009, 09:19 PM
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Bart's foot

Well, we have had so much confusion with poor little old Bart's foot. He is a 12.1hh pony, he is 18 years old, and is at a healthy weight according to our vet, farrier, and trainer. September we participated in a gymkhana, just like we have been doing once a month for like three years, and a few days after he was limping badly. It was just one foot so we didn't think it was lamenitus(sp?). Well the farrier came out the next day and they said it was probably a pulled tendon. We wrapped it and did what they told us and in a week he was fine. I let him in the arena with Dozer and that continued for a whole two days until he started limping again... Well then we called out the vet and farrier and they said laminitus. Well we have been treating him for this but this isn't how it normally comes about. Normally, he is stiff in both front legs and recovers after a week or so. This has been on and off for two months! We have taken xrays and there was nothing, we put on padded shoes and there was nothing, today on the coranary band there was some black-liquid seeping from there so now we are assuming absses, but since nothing came up in the xrays we are at a total loss. Any suggestions?
     
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    10-11-2009, 10:52 PM
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Has this happened to any of you??
     
    10-12-2009, 07:59 AM
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It is possible for an abcess not to be visibl on x-rays. So, how did they diagnose laminitis the second time? Was there any rotatin of the coffin bone on the x-rays? The pony is better after time off but then it reoccurs? How much time off and how much better? The turnout with your other horse, what kind of footing is it on? How active does your pony get?

And just fyi, a farrier cannot diagnose a pulled tendon. That is simply an assumption and should not be made lightly and by someone other than your vet. Before any diagnosis is made a good lameness exam needs to be performed to pinpoint the source of the problem. Farriers are simply not a replacement for a vet when you have a lameness issue.
     
    10-12-2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryle    
It is possible for an abcess not to be visibl on x-rays. So, how did they diagnose laminitis the second time? They put shoes on and watched him walk and said his short steps were laminitus steps. Was there any rotatin of the coffin bone on the x-rays?Actually his non hurt foot was more rotated than the hurt one. The pony is better after time off but then it reoccurs? Yes, and we haven't worked him or anything he has been in his stall for two months and its been off and on. How much time off and how much better? After four or five days there is no limp and then after a few days of no limp its back. The turnout with your other horse, what kind of footing is it on? Its soft, dirt with graded manure, sounds gross, but it is very soft and there arent any rocks or sharp things in there. Believe me I checked. How active does your pony get?The most active he is when he is turned out is a canter when him and Dozer(his turnout buddy) are playing. In his stall when he is limping he walks a little but not much, when its really bad he is laying down a lot. I get him up occasionally to prevet colic.. When he is not limping but in his stall he walks all over like nothing has happened.

And just fyi, a farrier cannot diagnose a pulled tendon. I know its just they were out the second day and the vet couldn't come out until the day after.That is simply an assumption and should not be made lightly and by someone other than your vet. Before any diagnosis is made a good lameness exam needs to be performed to pinpoint the source of the problem. We had that done and they said it most likely was(don't know how he was unsure) but I guess he doubted the test? He took blood samples and had shoes with pads put on. They also took the xrays. Farriers are simply not a replacement for a vet when you have a lameness issue. I understand and we have had both out to look at him many times, not just the farrier. The only reason he looked and said anything was because he was doing Dozer's hooves and noticed Bart.
Thanks for the reply!
     
    10-13-2009, 01:10 AM
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Trained
So how's he been since the abscess popped? I don't know about diagnosing lami from putting shoes on & seeing a horse step short. That sounds like a curious assumption. There are a number of reasons why a horse would do that, including heel pain, thrush, some other bodily injury or back pain. If your horse has 'rotation' this means that it is beyond just laminitis - the horse has actually foundered. This is most likely quite obvious when looking at the bare feet, for anyone who understands the condition. Has your farrier been trimming him accordingly or advising you or anything about it? Is it possible he didn't recognise the problem? What did the vet have to say about the founder & what should be done about it?

I suggest for starters to go study hoofrehab.com & learn all you can about hoof function and principles of care. We'd also be able to give you a more specific advice on his feet if you were to post some pics, and if poss the xrays.
     
    10-13-2009, 10:02 AM
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Cant post any of the x rays. We never got to see them. Will take pictures of the hoof and post them.
     
    10-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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Well, he had a HUGE absess! It popped two days ago and he is walking a lot better. We called the vet and he told us to get the farrier out to dig it out and that should be it. It was crazy looking at his hoof! The absess broke at the top of his hoof and it goes all the way to the bottom. Its huge! The farrier said that Bart has had absess before but never that huge. They said I can turn him out on Saturday. ALONE. They said I could start light riding next week! YAY!!!! I just want to know if you guys think that I should hold off longer? Something else? I don't know. Suggestions?
     
    10-14-2009, 12:30 AM
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Yearling
If it were me I wouldn't ride him for a while. Probably hand graze him and such. Whil I'm sorry he has an abcess I'm glad it wasn't something more sinister.
     
    10-14-2009, 12:35 AM
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We are happy that was all it was. Im not planning on riding him for a while. I want to give him maximum rest but I was wondering how long you guys think I should wait.
     
    10-14-2009, 07:50 AM
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Once he is sound, not limping he should be fine to ride. Movement helps push out the bad stuff.
     

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