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post #11 of 19 Old 09-29-2008, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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I tried LMF with him, but not the super supplement. He was so hot! I'm thinking I'll try the Purina Enrich32- there is a girl at my barn who uses that kind and she's happy with it. Plus, in our remote area, it is available!

So, if all goes well, and I start him up with the ration balancer I can expect to mix it with his beet pulp just for now? And when this batch of beetpulp is gone, he can just have the ration balancer? I know my friend mixes some veggie oil with her Purina Enrich32.

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post #12 of 19 Old 09-29-2008, 05:45 PM
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you can TRY just the Enrich and he may be fine on it but keep track of his weight and if he starts dropping be prepared to put the beet pulp back into him at about 1lb per day which is about 9 cups I think ...

Buy a cheapo scales at walmart or someplace like that from teh kitchen department ... and start weighing your feed until you KNOW how much equals 1lb should be about 3cups of Enrich!! Just think 1 bag will last you 50 days!!!
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Thank you PeggySue! You rock.

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post #15 of 19 Old 09-29-2008, 10:30 PM
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He is known for getting hot on grain feed- haven't tried pelleted. He was on this diet when I bought him and had been doing great on it. He's an appendix qh, and has more of the physical characteristics of a Thoroughbred than a qh. So, he's a hard keeper. I've been under the impression this mix is good for hard keepers to maintain weight.

The flakes probably weigh about 10 pounds each, so 20 pounds of the alfalfa/grass mix per day (estimate)????

No matter if he's out in pasture or in his turnout, he eats the same amount of hay. If he's out to pasture he misses his beet pulp meal (which I only feed in the PM).

Does this help? I really appreciate your input.
It would be best to keep him off feed, pellets or grain. I would add to his rice bran/beet pulp mix a vitamin supplement like Select I or Smart Vite Maintenance Alfalfa (since it looks like he's getting more than 8lbs of Alfalfa a day, if your bales are 50/50 alfalfa/grass). You can find both on the Smart Pak web site. That should round out his nutritional needs without adding more "stuff" that could possibly make him hot.

The Enrich 32 might not be the best thing if he's getting that much alfalfa everyday (or most days). Enrich is for horses on grass hay or pasture.
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L2R not being a witch here but when the hay is 50/50 they recommend the ration balancers for Grass not alfalfa


Also smartpak has thier maintence vitamins that contain amino acids and pre/pro bios which would cost about the same as most ration balancers ... and outstanding numbers all most of the vitamins/minerals

The ration balancers are just so much easier because you don't have to worry about mixing them with something else
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I hear ya on using a ration balancer for a mainly grass diet. The premix bales are about 70% grass, 30% alfalfa (that's what the hay loader tells me).

I used to supplement Willy with Missing Link for Equines. Wonderful product. It's expensive, and I'm teetering on just supplementing his mix with that again (and getting the proportions back on track), or going for a ration balancer.

I appreciate all input- thanks!

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post #18 of 19 Old 09-30-2008, 07:44 AM
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For comparsion

Missing Link Equine Supplement
Cost per day thru Samrtpak 68 cents

Ingredient Per Serving
Crude Protein (not less than) 16%
Crude Fat (not less than) 20%
Crude Fiber (not more than) 10%
Moisture (not more than) 10%
Ash (not more than) 5%
Linoleic Acid (Omega 5) per 60 g 3 g
Linolenic Acid (Omega 3) per 60 g 7.5 g
Vitamin A 200 IU
Thiamin (Vitamin B-1) 1.1 mg
Calcium 153 mg
Copper 0.18 mg
Iron 30 mg
Manganese 1.2 mg
Magnesium 145 mg
Potassium 526 mg
Phosphorus 282 mg
Sodium 56 mg
Zinc 7 mg


The Raion Balancer I use
Kent's HorseGo32
Average cost 47 cents per day

Crude protein, % 32
Crude Fat, % 5.0
Calcium, % 3.5
Phosphorus, % 1.9
Salt, % 2.0
Cr fiber, % 5.9
Copper, ppm 280
Iron, ppm 825
Manganese, ppm 660
Zinc, ppm 785
Se, ppm 3.0
Potassium, % 1.5
Magnesium, % .4
Lysine, % 1.85
Methionine, % .45
Threonine, % 1.2
Tryptophan, % .44
Vit A, IU/lb 30,500
Vit D, IU/lb 400
Vit E, IU/lb 50
Menadione, mg/lb 2.3
Riboflavin, mg/lb 10
Niacin, mg/lb 32
Pantothenic Acid, mg/lb 25
Choline, mg/lb 750
Vitamin B12, mg/lb .095
Folic acid, mg/lb 10
Biotin, mg/lb 3.35
Thiamine, mg/lb 27
Ascorbic Acid (vit C), mg/lb 50
Estimated Starch & sugars, % 5.8
1310 kcal/lb DE for Horse Go 32
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The Enrich 32 might not be the best thing if he's getting that much alfalfa everyday (or most days). Enrich is for horses on grass hay or pasture.
They do make Enrich 12 for an alfalfa diet.
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