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    06-18-2011, 08:31 PM
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Question beetpulp in place of grain for a fat horse?

I will admit beet pulp is very confusing to me! I have heard that it is mostly fiber, which if that is true how does it put weight on horses? So basically i'm clueless about it. Now the problem is that I have one old skinny horse on a few lbs of TC senior, beetpulp, alfalfa pellets, rice bran and a weight supplement. Then I have a fat appy(not terrible fat, probably a 6.5ish on the weight scale) So I only give him a 1/4 scoop TC senior(he is a senior, about 20 and it saves me from having to get multiple kinds of feed) and a vitamin supplement since he's not getting a full grain ration. With just that he finishes way before my old guy Blue and will go over and share whats left of Blue's food if I'm not watching. So I recently started adding a half scoop soaked beet pulp to his food, which is just enough that he finishes right around the same time as blue. My question is, will this make him fatter? I figure beetpulp has to have less fat and calories then the TC senior so beet pulp should be the better option? Am I right?
     
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    06-18-2011, 10:22 PM
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Green Broke
My personal experiences with beet pulp have not been impressive. I had a mare underweight last year by about 100 pounds, and she was getting 2 standard feed scoops full of wet beet pulp (the average feed scoop holds approx 3.5 pounds of hard grain), plus 1 scoop of Cool Command. I did this for a couple of months with no results. When winter came, I had to pull her off the beet pulp due to lack of running water in the barn and incompetent staff and pay for her to be inside. She finally started gaining weight getting 1 scoop of Cool Command and 1 scoop of sweet feed twice a day.

What finally made her gain weight though was the GOOD alfalfa mix hay she started getting when we moved barns. It took me 6 months to put 70 pounds on her at the old barn, and a few weeks to finish off the last 30 pounds this spring at the new awesome barn.

LOL, long story short, I highly doubt a bit of beet pulp is going to affect your horse. In my experience, rich hay and rich grass are what put weight on, and obviously too much of an inappropriate grain. Again, we had a skinny TB at the new barn and for all the beet pulp that was pumped into him, he looked better on 2 weeks of grass then he did in 2 months of beet pulp and Cool Command.

I honestly wouldn't worry.
     
    06-18-2011, 11:39 PM
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BP is a high fiber feed that doen't offer much more than grass hay, calorically or nutritionally. It's about 1 Mcal/# where most senior feeds are 1.5-1.7 Mcal depending upon the fat and fiber content. I'll agree that it's an overrated feed and I don't get it either.

The BP isn't going to change much. You could drop the senior and up the vit/minerals. Or just tie him up.
     
    06-19-2011, 04:18 AM
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Trained
Why are you feeding him any hard feed if he's fat? If it's to mix his supps &/or give him something when your old boy is eating his meals, I'd replace the senior feed with something like straight chaff, beet pulp or such, rather than add it. I've never used it personally - don't see the point, but upon analysis... and comments from my nutritionist, I'm inclined to agree that without additives, it is a low-cal high fibre feed.

As for hard feeding, particularly oldies, it is important to feed little & often, not just 2-3 large feeds per day. The less often &/or the larger the feed, the less the horse is able to get out of it and the more 'side effects' they can suffer. It is also important to feed low sugar/starch - so no/low grain, no molasses or other 'junk food' etc, because this can also affect a horse's weight(among many other issues) negatively.
     
    06-19-2011, 03:39 PM
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The only reason I give him any hard feed is because he won't eat the beet pulp alone, so I mix a little but of Blue's senior feed in there for taste, it's really not much at all. There really isn't a way for me to keep them separated because I have to feed them and then run to work, really the only problem feeding is the AM, I also feed them at lunch and after work, but those times I have time to wait until Blue is finished. Sorry I didn't clarify that in my first post. He's probably isn't even as fat as I think he is, he just looks it next to my poor old skinny guy. I don't want him to gain weight, but it is probably fine where he is at now.

I took these pics of him about a month ago.




I don't have any better pics right now, but i'm sure that gives you a basic idea of his body condition
     
    06-19-2011, 04:19 PM
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Trained
I love beet pulp, make s me feel good feeding it, especially in the winter, I soak it in the house, then take it out to the barn and I love seeing them with steaming food in front of them

I don't see it as a wonder food, but it is useful, everyone here loves it and it's a great thing for mixing any feed through medicine or powdered minerals or any supplements.

I use it to bulk up the food of my faster eaters so everyone finishes around the same time, IMO it wont do much to change your boys weight, unless we are talking about buckets of the stuff
     
    06-19-2011, 05:40 PM
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Trained
I recent;y swapped from Beet Pulp to Hay Cubes as my guys wouldt finish their feeds at competitions as they weren't fussed on the beet pulp.

Now hay cubes they hoover!!! Same benefits, forage, soakable, but much tastier and a bit 'more' nutrition wise. All my easy keepers every get is a small handful of the soaked hay with their vit/min supp, the others also get a handful of Hygain Showtorque.
     
    06-19-2011, 06:07 PM
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Foal
I don't know if this is true, but I heard beet pulp fills them up. So it might keep him from eating less, but I don't know what he would be eating less of... I would cut down on his grain though
     
    06-19-2011, 07:12 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by wild_spot    
I recent;y swapped from Beet Pulp to Hay Cubes as my guys wouldt finish their feeds at competitions as they weren't fussed on the beet pulp.

Now hay cubes they hoover!!! Same benefits, forage, soakable, but much tastier and a bit 'more' nutrition wise. All my easy keepers every get is a small handful of the soaked hay with their vit/min supp, the others also get a handful of Hygain Showtorque.
HA, ours are completely opposite. We accidentally bought some hay cubes once, and they absolutely refuse to eat them dry OR soaked. I'd try to mix it in with the beet pulp to hide them, and they'd end up not eating half the beet pulp. I have absolutely no idea what problem they seemed to have with them, since they eat hay just fine!
     

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