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    03-01-2010, 05:01 PM
Black Frog Bad??

I went to my aunts house today and rode for about 20 minutes, while my fiance was fixing some things up. I havn't rode almost all winter, or should I say...all winter! I went to groom her and what not when I was done, and noticed the frogs on her hind feet were black. Not sure if this is normal for the winter or not so just thought I could get some good advice here.

They didn't smell too abnormal, but not like 'roses' either. They didn't seem to phase her when I poked at them or anything with the pick. She has front shoes on but no back shoes. There was no limping or any sign of discomfort while in action of any sort.
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    03-01-2010, 06:42 PM
Thrush is normally tar like, not just black. It probably wouldn't hurt to go ahead and treat
Good video-
    03-01-2010, 09:46 PM
A black frog is normal. So is a creamy frog. It all depends on the horse. If black isn't the usual colour for your horse's frogs, then it's an issue.

I had thrush sneak up on me. I can't smell it for some reason. Everyone says it smells so much, but I can't tell. I'll ask my son to do my horses feet sometimes and ask him. He has really bad allergies, but go figure: he can smell the thrush! The video is quite good, though I wouldn't count on just the "black" rubbing off indicating thrush. The change in the sulci is the best indicator for me now.

Ask someone else to have a look at his feet. And, treat for mild thrush if you like. Use non-invasive treatments, like ACV, zinc ointment, athlete's foot cream, sugardine, etc. Just wash well and dry before applying.
    03-01-2010, 10:04 PM
Can't hurt to hit it with a little diluted vinegar. I can't smell it until it's really bad either. If I see a color that doesn't look normal, I treat it to be safe.
    03-01-2010, 10:40 PM
I've been reading alot about ACV for thrush, so decided to call my old farrier (in another state, I've moved away) and ask him. He's a Master Farrier/ Certified Journeyman Farrier and has been doing this for 35 years.. in other words qualified and I trust him.

He said ACV is an old wives tale and does not work, and if by chance it did on someone's horse it was because something else had been done as well and it was coincedence
    03-01-2010, 11:13 PM
Thanx for the advice all!! Well, it is definitely not usual for her frogs to be that black, it goes all the way up to the bulbs of her heel, it was really noticeable and almost like a shock. I will put on some thrush treatment anyways. I have used ACV before but not on my horse. I used it on my aunts horse, and I didn't continue to "treatment" because she had bought this other stuff, so I'm not sure if it really works or not. I will not dissagree with you qtrhorsecrazy, but I would like some other comments on how well the ACV worked for those who have tried it and was consistant with it. Once again, thank you all for your advice, this is exactly what I like to read when I have questions!!! :)
    03-02-2010, 03:20 PM
I have to disagree with the old wives tale theory on ACV. Vinegar has been used for generations for many fungal/yeast infections. The acid modifies the Ph of the area making it hard for an alkaline based fungus to invade. I've not used it as a cure but rather a preventative. I prefer an antiseptic/fungicide treatment as a cure.
I agree the ACV is more for mild cases and preventatives rather than a cure.
    03-02-2010, 06:54 PM
I agree with Vidaloco, we (a veterinary teaching hospital) recommend it to people all the time with great results. It has worked wonderfully on my horse as well as dozens of patients in the hospital. I'll try to do a journal search and see if there are any documented scientific studies on it.

On another note, things like Koppertox are very harsh and more and more veterinarians are moving away from using these toxic chemicals on their patients.
    03-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Ok thank you so much vidaloco, and everyone else too! I will let you know what happens, what I presume it is (which I decided it is thrush, so far) and how the treatment goes and what I use. Thank you once again,s ooo much
    03-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Ideally, the best thing you can do for thrush is keep the foot clean and dry. The thrush fungus can't survive when exposed to oxygen. Good luck and hope you get it cleared up soon.

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