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    01-10-2013, 01:32 PM

I own a Rocky Mountain x Arabian Gelding who is 14 years old. His name is Toofine and we have competed in everything. This past summer I was at an Arabian Show, doing huntseat classes. My friend was also competing him. It was around 90 degrees F that day and HOT. After about 4 or 5 classes back to back I rode out of the ring and my friend seen blood running out of his nose. Never seeing this before, I ran back to the trailer, threw his saddle on the ground and put a halter on him and ran to the water spigot. I washed him to cool him down, and an experienced horse woman came and wrapped a wet towel around his throat to further the cooling. I am thinking he is a bleeder.

We are training in eventing, and in eventing, the xc courses are long, and I am doubting his capability of doing these. HELP
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    01-10-2013, 01:38 PM
Subbing as I am interested to see what others have to say.

I have known a slightly bloody nose to be a burst blood vessel in the nose.
    01-10-2013, 01:53 PM
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Then why not ask a vet? As that is the only advice you should really use in this situation anyway.
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    01-10-2013, 01:57 PM
You should talk to the vet and get a real medical opinion and diagnosis.
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    01-10-2013, 03:41 PM
Talk to your vet. There are drugs/treatments which can help "bleeders" if this is a reoccurring problem for him.
    01-10-2013, 05:54 PM
I agree with seeking a vet but if he is a bleeder usually they can perform quite well with use of lasix which is often used in race horses that bleed. Good luck but do seek a vet better safe then sorry in my book.

    01-10-2013, 06:31 PM
Thank you!
    01-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Bleeding from the nose after heavy exercise like racing (TBs for example) is not such an uncommon thing - its not a good thing either. When I worked at the track we had the odd bleeder, for instance out of a barn of was a bleeder. If a racehorse (in NZ) bleeds it has to be scoped by a vet and deemed sound enough to race by a vet. The horse is also put on Ventipulmin which is a bronchial dilator, however this drug tests positive! If a race horse bleeds three times during a race, it is finished.

Your horse needs to be scoped by a vet......

I'm not sure what the 'rules' are for x-country in terms of bleeding......but a vet would give you your best answer in terms of his health and his ability to exert himself.

On a side note, I was at the races one day with a goof of a horse, and in the starting gates he banged his nose and it bled......we still had to have him scoped because a stypendary steward saw the blood on his nose when he came of the track......obviously he wasn't a bleeder.....but they do take it seriously when an animal is racing that hard.
    01-10-2013, 07:05 PM
Yep this is something that needs to be checked by a vet. I personally wouldn't even think of cross country with a bleeder until a vet has scoped and done a full check.

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