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post #1 of 10 Old 10-03-2011, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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BO authorized different farrier to trim horse who had been trimmed 3 weeks ago.....

Not my horse, a fellow boarders.
I was unsatasfied with my Farriers work and sought out a new Farrier. Ever since, 8 horses have switched to the new Farrier.
So, yesterday I get a call that a horse at our barn a young palamino mare 4years old that I had been working with had her feet "trimmed" by the old farrier as authorized by BO. NOW....she switched ohhh.....15 weeks ago? She's been trimmed by the new farrier the past 2 times.
I was dumbfounded. Because we just had the farrier out on the 17th! She got done along with my gelding.
The old Farrier trimmed her feet! I'm told her frogs are extended 1/2 inch below her hoof in rear and she is lame. I haven't seen them myself I'll be going here shortly and will get pictures. But what would you do?
She's on bute for comfort and thank God the new Farrier is able to come out today. But his prices are 30-40 for barn call(he travels all over Missouri and Illinois) 30 for trim 70 for front 90 for full shoes.
When he talked to the BO he said well her farrier and vet weren't listed on her stall and he didn't know when she had been done last. Umm..NOBODY has that info on their stalls. I sure don't tell my BO when I'm having my horse trimmed or who does it.
I see a couple of points wrong here:
A. Owner never gave BO permission to authorize treatment
B. BO never had owner sign a boarding contract(why I don't know) bit it isn't in my boarding contract to tell who I use and when work is done
C. Farrier should have seen that her feet did not need done
D. Farrier should have noticed that her hooves look 100% different from his he trims. He leaves high heels and a boxy vertical foot with rounded toes while new farrier does a mustang roll and cutback toe.
So now, she is lame and can't be ridden. We had been making progress with her and just started under saddle we have to halt that.
What would you do? I know for sure I wouldn't be paying the bill for my farrier to come fix it.
Its illegal isn't it? To touch someone else's property? I've run into that a lot with rescue horses that I wantes to call my farrier to fix aweful feet but the horses are the BO's not mine.
Side note... the BO and old farrier are friends...
I've been told horror stories from other boarders how he was high when trimming and hit horses with hammers. He wouldn't dare lay a hand on my farrier because I would sock him one good. The owner of this horse is torn up about her being in pain :(
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BO should eat the cost of the crappy farrier as well as the owner's farrier to fix the horse's feet.

Will she/he? That depends entirely on the BO and what the horse owner decide.
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post #5 of 10 Old 10-03-2011, 02:24 PM
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Not alot you can do to "fix" an over trimmed foot except wait for it to grow. Shoes would probably help. You will be fighting an uphill battle getting BO to pay though. Definetly dont pay for the unauthorized trim.
The problem is you have no contract that spells out what horse owner should or shouldnt do, as well as what the BO should or shouldnt do. So you really cant complain one way or the other.
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Hey everyone. The owner is definitely not paying the crappy farrier. I posted a video
Not sure if it worked but I'll try again tonight when I get to a computer. She is picking her hind legs up pretty high and reaching pretty far forward. Its like she's avoiding toe weight. Her legs are stocked up(rear only) took her to cold hose to be sure it wasn't something else and my boyfriend said when she walked down the hill it was very obvious she was trying to keep weight on heel only. She sometimes stands with her rear a little under her but sometimes not. She's on 2 grams of bute too so she must really be in pain. Its her right rear she's really favoring. To the point of standing on 3 legs and holding that one up off the ground :/ farrier is coming today. Vet is being called too for a skin issue. So she will look at her feet too I'm sure.
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That happened to me a number of years ago. I bought/trained this QH for our hobby, a friend bought him, then he complains that the horse is lame. I had the horse 6 months, with NO lameness issues. (This horse had been worked extensively in my lesson program, as well.)
Later he admitted that his farrier trimmed too short.
Oh, well, reputation is EVERYTHING in this profession.
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What is with this trend of chopping horses heels completely off??? I do not understand this.
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^ Idk but it makes no sense whatsoever! Why trim down a hoof so far that the poor horse can't even walk without being dosed with bute >.< I wouldn't pay old farrier for trim, and I would change barns a.s.a.p!!
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I have no idea. This farrier HAD to have been on drugs. Not even joking. He always complains about his back. I don't know what he's prescribed but I gaurantee its SOMETHING. His workmanship has gone way down. When I switched about 6 months ago he was leaving my gelding too long and wasn't addressing his under run heels or that there was develooing wld.
I was told that the farriher put shoes on her hind. I don't know who paid him or how much was charged but I would be livid as well.
Switching barns isn't an option for me I don't know about them. I can tell you that I would be getting my farrier bill paid for as well as the next visit anything over $30 (the cost I pay for a barefoot trim) also my vet bill would be paid for. I know the BO and always work his sale horses and advertise them to be sold.
After talking with the barn owner he said he told the old farrier to look at her but not to trim her. Someone was out of line. But the farrier should have known better.
I will post pictures of her new shoes as soon as I can get them.
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