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    07-14-2009, 09:47 AM
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Weanling
BP for IR horses?

Well I have not had my mare tested to see if she is IR but I have heard its not a bad idea to feed them like they are either. She is a VERY easy keeper and was obese for quite some time before getting her back with me. She is now slowly getting back into shape and loosing weight but she still needs to loose more!

I board her at a barn. THe area we live in is pretty much not very horse friendly. Vets are non-existant pretty much....most people do their own shots and a small animal vet will come out to tube for mild colic anything serious we have to haul to UGA which I believe is a 3-5 hr drive if i'm not mistaken. We pretty much live in the woods. :( I'm realizing that if I am dealing with a IR horse that it could be hard to get her tested for it without hauling her (we don't own a trailer)

So I was wondering as a precautionairy measure to try to feed her as an IR horse to see what that would do? It can't hurt right? I have access to BP. Right now she is on a 6% fat feed..i don't know if it has a name or not the BO said she has her food specially made?? Its a pellet type with 6% fat that's all I know. I don't know how hard it will be to get her to let me switch food??
     
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    07-14-2009, 10:39 AM
  #2
Started
Depending on what you have avaiable you need to provide the nutrition somewhere...

Take any and all grain products away add a vitamin/mineral supplement or ration balancer and beet pulp for extra calories IF NEEDED
     
    07-14-2009, 10:48 AM
  #3
Yearling
I have a "suspected" IR horse as well. I haven't tested him for one reason or another but like you the diet is all good and no bad regardless so I started feeding it. I feed free choice Bermuda grass hay, ADM Stay Strong, and Omega Horseshine (flax). It's actually much cheaper than regular grain and he looks wonderful on it! I have heard that if you feed BP to an IR horse it needs to be rinsed and re-rinsed to get ALL the sugar out of it.

EquineCushings : Equine Cushings and Insulin Resistance

This is a FANTASTIC forum for IR horse talk.
     
    07-14-2009, 11:15 AM
  #4
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Peggysue    
depending on what you have avaiable you need to provide the nutrition somewhere...

Take any and all grain products away add a vitamin/mineral supplement or ration balancer and beet pulp for extra calories IF NEEDED

Hey PS :) I'm Classygirl23 on another forum that you helped me with this bfore but since my IT dept at work blocked that site I can no longer get on during the day :( and eveings is to busy to sit down to try to figure stuff out! Anyways! You might remember my mare Moved from MD to GA :) thanks for the info again

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Originally Posted by hotreddun    
I have a "suspected" IR horse as well. I haven't tested him for one reason or another but like you the diet is all good and no bad regardless so I started feeding it. I feed free choice Bermuda grass hay, ADM Stay Strong, and Omega Horseshine (flax). It's actually much cheaper than regular grain and he looks wonderful on it! I have heard that if you feed BP to an IR horse it needs to be rinsed and re-rinsed to get ALL the sugar out of it.

EquineCushings : Equine Cushings and Insulin Resistance

This is a FANTASTIC forum for IR horse talk.
Thank you for that info! I have to check with the BO to see if she would be willing to do this if I buy the feed myself! It seems like they are pretty much stuck in their ways of doing things. I don't mind getting the feed when she needs it etc but sometimes they look at me like im crazy LOL
     
    07-14-2009, 12:18 PM
  #5
Started
We have a very easy keeper mare here(my DIL's). I have to shut her off grass for at least half 12 hours to keep her from being a blimp. The vet told me to simply treat her as if she is IR because it sure wouldn't hurt her at all to be on that type of diet. I do not feed grain at all but I do feed beet pulp and have done the rinse rinse soak routine. If you can find B P without the molasses that helps a lot. I give it in place of grain with a wee bit of ALfalfa pellets to increase palatability. Some horses do take a little while to decide BP is actually food. LOL It is nice to be able to add your supplements(flax, msm, whatever) via BP when you do not feed any grain.

Regarding the BO. This is your horse and there should be no arguement as to what you want to feed.. I understand that it may be a bit more work for her to feed one horse different than all the others IF that's how she feeds, but the bottom line is this is YOUR horse, not hers. That is my opinion on that. Nobody tells me I have to feed my horses a certain feed.. It's not like you're starving her.

Ok rant over.. I certainly can understand you may need to provide the feed yourself if you wish to use something different than what she buys.
     
    07-14-2009, 12:28 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Appyt    
We have a very easy keeper mare here(my DIL's). I have to shut her off grass for at least half 12 hours to keep her from being a blimp. The vet told me to simply treat her as if she is IR because it sure wouldn't hurt her at all to be on that type of diet. I do not feed grain at all but I do feed beet pulp and have done the rinse rinse soak routine. If you can find B P without the molasses that helps a lot. I give it in place of grain with a wee bit of ALfalfa pellets to increase palatability. Some horses do take a little while to decide BP is actually food. LOL It is nice to be able to add your supplements(flax, msm, whatever) via BP when you do not feed any grain.

Regarding the BO. This is your horse and there should be no arguement as to what you want to feed.. I understand that it may be a bit more work for her to feed one horse different than all the others IF that's how she feeds, but the bottom line is this is YOUR horse, not hers. That is my opinion on that. Nobody tells me I have to feed my horses a certain feed.. It's not like you're starving her.

Ok rant over.. I certainly can understand you may need to provide the feed yourself if you wish to use something different than what she buys.

My mare is currently not on grass at all right now...well maybe hand grazing a few times a week for about 20 mins but other than that she is on a dry lot. I agree with you that it is my horse and I pay to keep her boarded here but if there is something extra that needs done I don't want to have a hassle about it. I don't mind paying extra to ensure she is getting the right care.

Unfortunately in the area boarding barns are few and far between :( I'm trying to really make it work here because I really don't have to many options :( Thanks for your help!
     
    07-14-2009, 12:42 PM
  #7
Started
Btw, I forgot to mention that my vet suggested a high fat/low carb diet. So high fat is good, just find out what the BO's feed consists of so you will know if you should change it or not. It may well be fine.
     
    07-14-2009, 12:45 PM
  #8
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Appyt    
Btw, I forgot to mention that my vet suggested a high fat/low carb diet. So high fat is good, just find out what the BO's feed consists of so you will know if you should change it or not. It may well be fine.

Thanks for that info as well :) I will have to check next time I see her what the ingredients are. I usually don't see anyone at the barn when I go...you would think people would go in the evening around 7 to ride here in GA with the heat and stuff but ig uess they come in the AM? I'm always the only one there lol
     
    07-16-2009, 09:00 AM
  #9
Started
The amount of fat you want to add depends on how easy the horse is to keep ;)

You can make feeding easy for you BO just get some zip lock baggies or lastic containers and make the feed up yourself then all the BO or barn workers have to do is dump the feed in and wet it down for you
     
    07-16-2009, 09:47 AM
  #10
Weanling
What is a IR Horse? Sorry for the dumb question
     

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