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  • Can i give rice bran for my horse has IR?
  • "insulin resistant" thin horse

 
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    07-16-2009, 10:40 AM
  #11
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by nldiaz66    
What is a IR Horse? Sorry for the dumb question
Not dumb at all

IR means the horse is insulin resistant -- same as a human that is Type II diabetic.

While the stereo-typical IR/EMS (equine metabolic syndrome) and Cushings horses are easy keepers, thin horses can also develop these diseases.

To the OP:

If you can get stabilized, calcium fortified, pelleted rice bran in your area, that is what I feed my I-R horse at the recommendation of an equine nutritionist when the IR exploded on him two years ago.

I have yet to hear of a horse choke on pelleted rice bran.

Plus there's no time wasted having to soak the molasses out if you can't find molasses free beet pulp, not to mention all the time involved in the soaking process.

I put all my horses on rice bran and they are much better for it. It was how I accidentally discovered one horse's snarky disposition was driven by an intolerance to oats & corn. For 12-1/2 years I've called him A.D.D. And here he's had a food intolerance so slight that I chalked his attitude up to
His blood line

I feed a pelleted vit/min supplement and Omega-3 horseshine
With the pelleted rice bran. That way I can increase or decrease the rice bran without interferring in their vitamin/mineral intake.

Everyone's on 12 hour turnout on good pasture. For now they all get 1-1/4 household measuring cup divided into two feedings.

Once winter sets in and the pasture goes down, I will increase that to two measuring cups divided into two feedings.

Rice bran is 20% healthy fat, so it doesn't take much

If you look at the horses in the "featured testimonial", those would be my Boys.

The second one from the left is my 22 yo that is insulin resistant. He is the same horse in my avatar except he was 16 and the I-R hadn't taken control yet He was still his high powered go-go-go self, but not having any knowledge of IR back than, I was oblivious to the early symptoms.

So no, nldiaz66;352108, your question is far from dumb

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    07-16-2009, 12:26 PM
  #12
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peggysue    
the amount of fat you want to add depends on how easy the horse is to keep ;)

You can make feeding easy for you BO just get some zip lock baggies or lastic containers and make the feed up yourself then all the BO or barn workers have to do is dump the feed in and wet it down for you

That is a good idea not sure how conveinent it would be. I don't mind doing extra work don't get me wrong! But they keep all the food locked up so you can't ever get to it (which I guess is a good thing?) so if I would purchase the food I would have to keep it at the house and bring it every few days or something unless they wouldnt mind me just keeping her food out but they are kinda picky about stuff like that?
     
    07-16-2009, 12:29 PM
  #13
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peggysue    
the amount of fat you want to add depends on how easy the horse is to keep ;)

You can make feeding easy for you BO just get some zip lock baggies or lastic containers and make the feed up yourself then all the BO or barn workers have to do is dump the feed in and wet it down for you
Quote:
Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
Not dumb at all

IR means the horse is insulin resistant -- same as a human that is Type II diabetic.

While the stereo-typical IR/EMS (equine metabolic syndrome) and Cushings horses are easy keepers, thin horses can also develop these diseases.

To the OP:

If you can get stabilized, calcium fortified, pelleted rice bran in your area, that is what I feed my I-R horse at the recommendation of an equine nutritionist when the IR exploded on him two years ago.

I have yet to hear of a horse choke on pelleted rice bran.

Plus there's no time wasted having to soak the molasses out if you can't find molasses free beet pulp, not to mention all the time involved in the soaking process.

I put all my horses on rice bran and they are much better for it. It was how I accidentally discovered one horse's snarky disposition was driven by an intolerance to oats & corn. For 12-1/2 years I've called him A.D.D. And here he's had a food intolerance so slight that I chalked his attitude up to
His blood line

I feed a pelleted vit/min supplement and Omega-3 horseshine
With the pelleted rice bran. That way I can increase or decrease the rice bran without interferring in their vitamin/mineral intake.

Everyone's on 12 hour turnout on good pasture. For now they all get 1-1/4 household measuring cup divided into two feedings.

Once winter sets in and the pasture goes down, I will increase that to two measuring cups divided into two feedings.

Rice bran is 20% healthy fat, so it doesn't take much

If you look at the horses in the "featured testimonial", those would be my Boys.

The second one from the left is my 22 yo that is insulin resistant. He is the same horse in my avatar except he was 16 and the I-R hadn't taken control yet He was still his high powered go-go-go self, but not having any knowledge of IR back than, I was oblivious to the early symptoms.

So no, nldiaz66;352108, your question is far from dumb

Horse Health Product Horseshine Omega 3 Flax Feed Supplement by Omega Fields

Wow thank you for all that helpful information! In the beginning it always seems like so much to learn and stuff (to me atleast) whethe rit be dealing with IR or Laminitis or whatever else the horseys we love develop!
     
    07-16-2009, 12:37 PM
  #14
Green Broke
My possibly IR mare is fed the same diet as my "hard keeper" and BOTH are doing AWESOME on it!

Here's what I feed:
  • Grass hay, berumda or mixed local grasses.
  • 2-4 lbs of Alfalfa pellets (the kind with NO molasses)
  • 1/2 cup milled flax (whole flax will work too, and is cheaper)
  • Nutri-Plus++ vitamins, 1oz scoop
I add 1/2 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar to the feed (for fly prevention) and mix it all up. Water will work fine if you don't want to feed ACV, you just need a dash.

Or, instead of the flax and the vitamins, you can feed Platinum Performance. It includes a vit/min supplement, omega 3s, and a joint supplement.

This diet is very low in sugar/starch, high in nutrients, has good fat (flax), and is great for just about any horse. You can adjust the level of Alfalfa pellets depending on how her weight goes. One 3qt feed scoops holds about 3-3.5 lbs of Alfalfa pellets. You do not need any additional feed or grains.

The last boarding facility I was at put the WHOLE BARN on this kind of a diet and it really did well for all of the horses. It made me a believer in a grain-free diet for just about any horse.
     
    07-16-2009, 12:45 PM
  #15
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
My possibly IR mare is fed the same diet as my "hard keeper" and BOTH are doing AWESOME on it!

Here's what I feed:
  • Grass hay, berumda or mixed local grasses.
  • 2-4 lbs of Alfalfa pellets (the kind with NO molasses)
  • 1/2 cup milled flax (whole flax will work too, and is cheaper)
  • Nutri-Plus++ vitamins, 1oz scoop
I add 1/2 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar to the feed (for fly prevention) and mix it all up. Water will work fine if you don't want to feed ACV, you just need a dash.

Or, instead of the flax and the vitamins, you can feed Platinum Performance. It includes a vit/min supplement, omega 3s, and a joint supplement.

This diet is very low in sugar/starch, high in nutrients, has good fat (flax), and is great for just about any horse. You can adjust the level of Alfalfa pellets depending on how her weight goes. One 3qt feed scoops holds about 3-3.5 lbs of Alfalfa pellets. You do not need any additional feed or grains.

The last boarding facility I was at put the WHOLE BARN on this kind of a diet and it really did well for all of the horses. It made me a believer in a grain-free diet for just about any horse.

Wow that is awesome and doesn't sound to complicated either! More work for the BO and help to do of course but she told me she doesn't mind adding their vit/sup but she only gives it in the mornings not evenings? Wasn't quite sure of her reasoning on that I guess time factor? I will look into this as well!

Thanks for the help it's really appreciated

Oh question about the alfalfa, My mare has never been on any type of alfalfa, should I be concerned about that?
     
    07-16-2009, 05:20 PM
  #16
Green Broke
Most horses do fine on Alfalfa. 2-4 lbs isn't very much.

I only feed mine once a day, as far as "goodies". If you're feeding 5 lbs or less, once a day is fine.
     

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