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post #1 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 12:44 PM Thread Starter
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Building Weight Q's

Sit back and hang on, I have a ton of questions. Blaze's weight and health are my #1 obsession right now.

First off, I've had him on his ration balancer (Purina Enrich 32) for about a month now (the first week+ transitioning him off of his sweet feed). As some remarked in my pictures, he could stand to gain some weight, especially since winter/snow here is fast approaching. I check him every day, and I think his ribs still feel to close to the surface, if you will, and I can still see them if I stare hard enough. Basically, I'm unsatisfied with his weight where it is.

Because of my schedule, I decided to start him on a Weight Builder supplement versus something like beet pulp, because I don't have time to soak it long enough before heading to the barn. I've had him on this: Weight Builder - Horse Supplement - American Livestock Supply for about 2 weeks now. I feed him 2 scoops (4 ounces) a day, which is what they reccomend for weight gain. I read last night on the bucket that up to 8 oz can be fed without adverse affects, so I gave him another 1 oz. I haven't seen any real results in the 2 weeks-am I expecting too much to see gain that soon? Maybe the supplement just sucks?

I've been doing a lot of research online today, and much of what I've found says that soaking beet pulp, as an absolute necessity, is a myth. What I've read reccomends buying shredded beet pulp and maybe wetting it down a bit, and just knowing beforehand if your horse is the type to bolt food or not. If I go this route and feed dry, is it ok to soak it on days I have time, like the weekends?

HELP! I want my guy to be all fat and jolly (but not hot) this winter. I work with him at least 4 times a week, at leasy 30 min-1 hr each time. i think I mentioned this elsewhere, but he's got free access to hay (they feed round bales), there's now a salt lick in there (I tried adding that apple salt/electrolyte stuff to his feed for his salt needs but he hated it)...

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post #2 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 12:57 PM
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the description states to give it 30 days to work...seems like all of the ingredients are there for weight gain.

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post #3 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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the description states to give it 30 days to work...seems like all of the ingredients are there for weight gain.
I know, I'm an antsy person-I want results and I want them NOW! Thanks, I'll give it another 2 weeks. I just worry about him all the time, I don't want him cold or miserable.

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post #4 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 01:17 PM
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at 4ozs a day you really aren't adding much calories ... you can add in up to 2lbs of Rice Bran make sure it is fortified to balance the Ca:P ratio it will state that on the bag... You can also add in alfalfa pellets/cubes, Black Oil sunflower seeds, beet pulp or even a SMALL amount of oats I wouldn't go over 2lbs PER DAY there.... if you get rice bran which IMO is better then MOSt of the weight builders try to find the pelleted one the horses seem to like it better :)

do you have new pics of him??

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post #5 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 01:19 PM
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I used that same exact product on my horse for two months with hardly any effect at all. =(. She didn't put on an once of weight, and she was getting three or four scoops. A friend of mine also used the same product for MONTHS with absolutely no weight gain. It turned out that corn/vegetable oil worked better. But ever horse is different! I hope you have better luck with it than my friend and I did!
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post #6 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 02:06 PM
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With my guys, i have had much more success with rice bran

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With my guys, i have had much more success with rice bran

I have had the best luck with Rice bran or oats ... oats are the easiest to digest of thegrains so are "safer" then the others but if there is any question of the horse being EMS then do not feed them at all...

Kickshaw did you have any problems with the powder rice bran and the horses not wanting to eat it ??

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they've been on two types: Seminole's Ultra Bloom, which is an extruded nugget (they ate it fine) and now Max E Glo, which is a powder.

Boo thought it was weird the first few times, but he eats it just fine now.

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Thanks for all the replies all (esp. CallieMae-good to know the product didn't work for you).

I don't have any super duper recent pics of him, not since people commented probably. This is the most recent one I have; maybe 2 weeks old?


here he looks ribby:


Is rice bran "better" than beet pulp, or maybe just a better option for me since I can't realistically soak beet pulp every day? Does feed stores carry straight up rice bran or are there products I should be looking for? he seems fine with powders-he loves the Weight Builder stuff.

Don't things like oats make a horse "hotter"? That I'm trying to stay away from; he's prone to the crazies Thanks so much guys. I'll check in again later; limited internet use at work nowadays.

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post #10 of 27 Old 11-20-2008, 03:33 PM
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rice bran can be found in bags by itself, or as a product such as max e glo or ultra bloom. Manna Pro Corporation and http://www.seminolefeed.com/ProductS...aBloom2550.mht

there is also wheat bran out there, but i don't know a lot about that...peggysue?

the rice bran would be easier to feed, because it does not have to be soaked.

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