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  • Farrier took off all horse heel
  • Farrier takes alot of sole away on horse

 
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    03-02-2010, 08:24 PM
  #1
Trained
Wink Calling all farriers!!

I sure hope this is in the right spot...

I have literally NO knowledge on trimming, or what types of trims one can do or what they're called or what they help, none of that. She gets shoes in the summer, but is barefoot the rest of the year.

Anywho, I was just wondering what you thought of her feet, and maybe, if the pictures are good enough, what you, as a farrier, would do with them or suggest things that I should mention to my farrier? I took these pictures today. She is overdue, but the farrier is coming out tomorrow.

Be blunt as you want, you can't hurt my feelings because I really know nothing, lol. And I took lots of pictures, I didn't know what kind of angles you'd need.

Side view of the fronts.


Fronts again.


Rear.


These next four are the bottoms of her front left, back left, back right, then front right.






     
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    03-02-2010, 09:13 PM
  #2
Trained
They could do witha trim but they aren't horrible. The toes are long and it looked like the feet are a little out of balance side to side. Get a trim soon but there isn't anything too terrible going on there.
     
    03-02-2010, 09:19 PM
  #3
Trained
Well that's good to know, lol. Thank you. =]
     
    03-02-2010, 11:07 PM
  #4
Weanling
Yea nothing really screamed at me. Just a good trimming. Kev pointed out the things I noticed. The only other thing I prefer a little more of a heel but that will take time and most good farriers won't take anything off the heel.
     
    03-03-2010, 09:09 AM
  #5
Banned
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Originally Posted by cowgirlfitzy    
I noticed. The only other thing I prefer a little more of a heel but that will take time and most good farriers won't take anything off the heel.
I have been shoing for 24 years and for the first 20 years I believed that statement above. But after further education, hanging around a farrier forum I have changed my way of shoing and I will cut the heals down.
Tall heals are not healthy heals. Alot of run forward heals are the result of not cutting the heals down enough to good healthy heals.
You want the frogs to engage the ground.

I feel the feet just need cleaning up as kevin said and even if you had a file and a little instruction you could keep her feet looking good between visits.
     
    03-03-2010, 01:10 PM
  #6
Showing
Toes are long and lots of chipping, but I really like the bottom - nice frog and heels. You just need a good trimming and he'll be great.

I agree with RD. I did lots of research on trimming (not on shoeing though) when I just got my horses, and while you certainly keep some heel, you don't want it high.
     
    03-05-2010, 09:02 PM
  #7
Trained
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Originally Posted by cowgirlfitzy    
I prefer a little more of a heel but that will take time and most good farriers won't take anything off the heel.
On the contrary, I'd say it's most BAD farriers who don't take anything off the heels. As RiosDad said, high heels are not at all healthy for the horse. Of course, don't just take our word for it, but learn about hoof form & function and make an *informed* decision about it.

Whether or not you choose to shoe or not, whether or not your horse's feet are problematic or not, I believe it's imperative for people to have an understanding of the principles & factors that govern hoof health. Not least because so many - including professional farriers & the likes are unfortunately rather ignorant of many details. If you're in ignorance of the principles yourself, how do you know whether your 'expert' of choice is good, bad or indifferent? To that end, hoofrehab.com & barehoofcare.com are 2 great sites to begin with.

Regarding riccil's pics, apart from them being overdue, it looks like your horse has quite reasonable feet. Lateral balance may not be perfect, but it's difficult to tell from these angles. Likewise it's hard to tell how flat or otherwise the soles are from that angle, but if they are as flat as they seem, that's what I'd be most concerned about - they are probably very thin & I would definitely be protecting & supporting them when on rough, hard ground, with boots, Vettec Sole Guard, pads or some such. Ensuring the soles & digital cushions are able to be in a supporting role while remaining protected & comfortable until they become strong & thick should help her develop great feet. I wouldn't personally advise putting shoes on this horse until it has been rehabilitated, assuming the problems are as they seem to me. But keeping the above principles of protecting & supporting the sole is even more important with shoes IMO.

There are rings about half way down that suggest a reasonable metabolic upset. Below this point there are more minor signs, but above it - since whatever happened at least a few months ago appear quite healthy & likely free from lamellar damage. It appears that the walls may have been trimmed flat to the ground, and this along with them becoming too long is what has caused them to get messy & break away in chunks. Get your farrier to do a 'mustang roll' on her walls, bevelling the outer walls away from the ground to remove the unhealthy leverage forces. Above all, ensure he doesn't touch that sole, because she needs as much as she can grow of it.
     

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