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        06-03-2009, 08:21 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Sweet feed???? There you go. Way too much energy for an already hot horse. Better do some research on diet. Any chance there's alfalfa in your hay too? I don't mean to sound sarcastic. I just got done doing a ton of research on diet and it sounds like you might be looking in the wrong direction for the cause you her behavior.
         
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        06-04-2009, 12:53 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Before anything else, make sure she has plenty of turnout time, at least 6 hours a day, preferably 12 or more hours a day with a friend or three. She needs time to burn off excess energy on her own.

    First, I would rule out medical reasons for her behavior.

    Have the vet out to check her teeth, remove any wolf teeth, check her hormone levels, and palpate her uterus and ovaries.

    Next, I would have a GOOD equine chiropractor, preferably one that is or was a licensed vet. Have him/her give the horse a thorough once over, including checking your saddle fit and placement.

    Third, I would have a saddle fitter out to check your saddle fit and placement. I would also buy a ThinLine pad and a real Sheepskin Girth Cover, to make sure she's as comfortable as possible.

    Last, but not least, I would look at her diet. Remove ALL grain or feed for two full weeks. Make sure she's getting only grass hay or timothy hay, or mixed hay, all she can eat. If she loses weight, supplement her with hay pellets and flax or rice bran. If her behavior improves, then something in the feed, hay, or supplements you were giving her was not agreeing with her... Keep her on an all-hay diet, adding a vitamin supplement to the hay pellets and rice bran or flax, and more hay pellets if she loses weight.
         
        06-04-2009, 12:54 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Sweet feed???? There you go. Way too much energy for an already hot horse. Better do some research on diet. Any chance there's alfalfa in your hay too? I don't mean to sound sarcastic. I just got done doing a ton of research on diet and it sounds like you might be looking in the wrong direction for the cause you her behavior.
    Very true! I didn't read the whole thread before posting above. NO MORE SWEET FEED! Increase her hay (grass, orchard, or timothy, no alfalfa hay), and no feed for a while. If you give her supplements, have them mixed in just a couple handfuls of feed, or better yet, some hay pellets with water. Alfalfa pellets are fine, as long as she's not getting alfalfa hay.
         
        06-04-2009, 09:40 PM
      #14
    Foal
    She is outside in a pasture with 4 or more horses at all times. I can only afford pasture board, so there is no problem with her not being able to get out excess energy.

    I just had her teeth floated a couple months ago, although it was the first time she ever had them done. I would have a chiropractor come, as I love them for myself, and it sounds like a great idea, but I do not have the money for it. =/

    My girth is one of the ones with fleece or sheepskin on it. I have never used a leather girth on her.

    I am going to talk to my trainer about the only hay feed and take her grain away. My mom said she remembers my trainer saying something about doing that, but not too much. I will talk to her about it on saturday when I have to work there and have a lesson. Too bad I can't get it fixed before my show sunday. Ughh. O well. It will all get fixed in time.
         
        06-05-2009, 07:49 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    Def change her diet, will work wonders.... as for supplements I have heard Mare Magic works great..I just ordered some for my mare. Its cheap and all natural so worth a try. (also supposed to work on geldings so not just a cycle thing) you can find it on valley vet's website. Will let you know how it works with my mare
         
        06-05-2009, 08:40 AM
      #16
    Foal
    You should definitely try changing her diet and have a vet to completely check her and a chiropracter to check her back. If that doesn't help you should get a saddle fitter to check if her saddle's the problem.

    I wouldn't use supplements before I had checked everything else and I would only use them after a vet said that it is ok and the right thing to do!
         
        06-05-2009, 08:46 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    Yes def check with your vet, Mare magic is only rasberry leaves so hopefully pretty harmless.... it may not be the answer for you but I am going to try it....but I bet just the change in diet will end up working wonders for your horse :)
         
        06-05-2009, 10:04 AM
      #18
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by eralcx3    
    She is outside in a pasture with 4 or more horses at all times. I can only afford pasture board, so there is no problem with her not being able to get out excess energy.
    Sweet feed can still cause a problem. If she's getting bermuda hay, switch her "food" to Alfalfa pellets with a vitamin supplement or just 1 lb of a ration balancer feed.

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    I just had her teeth floated a couple months ago, although it was the first time she ever had them done.
    Ask your vet if she had any wolf teeth that he could see. If she did, have him back out to pull the wolf teeth/tooth as soon as your budget allows.

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    Too bad I can't get it fixed before my show sunday. Ughh. O well. It will all get fixed in time.
    See if your feed store has any Quietex paste. That might help for your show.

    Also, make sure the fleece is clean and free of any sticks or burrs. Use a dog slicker brush to brush out the fleece.
         
        06-05-2009, 10:56 PM
      #19
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Sweet feed???? There you go. Way too much energy for an already hot horse. Better do some research on diet. Any chance there's alfalfa in your hay too? I don't mean to sound sarcastic. I just got done doing a ton of research on diet and it sounds like you might be looking in the wrong direction for the cause you her behavior.
    Alfalfa is not necessarily a bad thing. That's what we feed. It's high in protein and can be a great source of food. My bet with this horse is that this is a training issue. Hormonal issues may well figure into this equation but I think this horse needs more ground work.
         
        06-06-2009, 12:40 PM
      #20
    Foal
    You should really try and get a chiro out to check her, preferably one that is also a vet. We just had one out to see my mare who have very similar problems to yours and turns out she has lyme. Maybe you could skip a few shows to save up money to have the vet or chiro out if that's possible.
         

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