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    11-03-2011, 10:13 AM
  #1
Weanling
calming supplements... will they work for a weaver

Primo weaves... it's improved since I've owned him, but I think it's part of who he is. He's a bit of a nervous nelly and I think it's his way of dealing with stress. I've caught him weaving in the trailer and when aggressive horses are in the cross ties. I think his nervous behavior is why he gets tight under saddle too... especially at events.

I was looking at smartpacks latest catalog and I see "calming and balancing supplements"... has anyone had any experience with these? I don't want him drugged, but I'd love to see him calm. What is legal/illegal? I talked to my vet and he thinks something daily may help him. He is looking into this too for me, but more minds are better right?

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    11-03-2011, 07:41 PM
  #2
Foal
I'd rather have a weaver than a cribber!!!

I don't think anything will make it go away entirely, however if he has a nervous tendency, things may be able to offer SOME help.

I've had success with Quiessence-I use it on MANY horses and it doesn't make them dumb, but it's like it makes them prepared to listen.

While I had a horse recovering from surgery to remove an OCD, she became pretty mad pretty fast-so I put her on Calmex (less expensive than Quiessence) and saw a notable difference-when I hand walked her, she wasn't wild!

That being said, your core diet is key. What is he currently eating?
     
    11-04-2011, 10:19 AM
  #3
Weanling
A mix of pellets (the name is escaping me) and 10% sweetfeed (mostly cause he's not a fan of the pellets). 1.5 lbs 2x a day. I think it's only a quarter cup of sweetfeed. Nearly 5 flakes of grass/timothy hay mix 2x a day. He's also on 12 hr turn out, though grazing is minimal. I'd love for him to be out in the big field to graze, but due to being mostly pink skinned, 24 turnout is not ideal for him. He doesn't like to keep his clothes on in the summer.

When he first came, he used to weave in the field and really bad in his stall. It was to the point I spent 200 and got a face bumper because he'd bash his head. We moved stalls, changed feed (no more alfalfa except before an event), and it improved. However the anxious attitude persists under saddle. It too has greatly improved, but seems to have plateaued.
     
    11-04-2011, 02:38 PM
  #4
Foal
Hey Mudpaint,
I tried Alpha Omega calming supplement on my mare, she wasn't a weaver but she was very nervous in the indoor arena. What I found was not so much a difference in her, but it was like a placebo effect for me, that I was more confident that she wasn't on edge. Anyways, I used it for the weekend at our first event together, and it was so smooth that I have never used it again.

I don't think, at least the one I tried, will have the results that you are looking for. It doesn't change who they are, or drug them. It seemed to take the edge off of myself, and therefore, my mare was not edgy. Go figure.
     
    11-04-2011, 03:28 PM
  #5
Weanling
Not sure how it will change behavior issues like weaving because it's been a go-to technique for him in the past. But, depending on what you choose, you could have good luck with general nervousness. My horse is a nervous guy, so I started with some training techniques and changed his feed to a low-starch feed. It helped quite a bit, but not as much as I had hoped, so I tried SmartCalm pellets from SmartPak. I didn't have much confidence it would do anything, but wanted to try, and within a month, he was soooo much better! He wasn't dumb or lazy by any means and didn't lose his personality, but he could definitely deal with new situations so much better. This past weekend I even hauled him to a local schooling show for the first time, and while I expected him to explode like he normally does, he was CALM. Interested in all the happenings, but calm about it! Like a whole new horse, truly. I guess I would just recommend you try what you and your vet think would be a good match just to see. If it doesn't work, what's the worst that could happen? Just out a few dollars, but you'd have your answer Good luck!
     
    11-04-2011, 03:48 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MicKey73    
Not sure how it will change behavior issues like weaving because it's been a go-to technique for him in the past. But, depending on what you choose, you could have good luck with general nervousness. My horse is a nervous guy, so I started with some training techniques and changed his feed to a low-starch feed. It helped quite a bit, but not as much as I had hoped, so I tried SmartCalm pellets from SmartPak. I didn't have much confidence it would do anything, but wanted to try, and within a month, he was soooo much better! He wasn't dumb or lazy by any means and didn't lose his personality, but he could definitely deal with new situations so much better. This past weekend I even hauled him to a local schooling show for the first time, and while I expected him to explode like he normally does, he was CALM. Interested in all the happenings, but calm about it! Like a whole new horse, truly. I guess I would just recommend you try what you and your vet think would be a good match just to see. If it doesn't work, what's the worst that could happen? Just out a few dollars, but you'd have your answer Good luck!
This is what I'm hoping to achieve. I know that I can't change the weaving... it's a learned response. Though I'll continue trying to alleviate that. But I think if he feels less stressed, riding will be more pleasant and he'll be happier inside... cause lets face it winter's here.
     
    12-06-2011, 01:11 AM
  #7
Foal
My horse is just coming out of 2 month lay up from a hoof problem. He had daily turnout and handwalking during his recovery but we could all sense that he needed something when he returned to work. I put him on Smartcalm Ultra by Smartpak, like Mickey73 and WOW! What a difference. We were in an arena with a whole bunch of other excited jumpers running around and I could tell he wanted to explode with all of his energy but kept his composure. I could tell he was so much more focused and less edgy without losing his Thoroughbred temperment. I cannot say enough positive things about this supplement. It's really going to help us get back on track, safely.
     

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