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  • Is stay sound any good for lame horses ?
  • Hind hoof flare

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    03-16-2012, 04:43 PM
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Green Broke
Can you please stay sound? -Rant-

As many of you know I go to a university for western riding. Well my horse to break out this semester is a very well bred APHA breed stock gelding. He has very funky back legs, very cow hocked and his hooves flare out like crazy. He is a b-e-a-utiful mover. Such a cute little loper I could watch him all day. He is HUS bred. But isnt very tall (about 15.3hh) so he would make a nice youth all arounder. I was a week behind with him to start off with because my mom was in the hospital the very first week of school.

Anyways, the first day I broke him out the only kind of reaction I got from him while lunging with the saddle was once kicking out. Well, when he kicked out he ended up kicking a metal support beam with his right hind. Ever since he has been slightly off on that leg. A week later he was completely lame on that leg. At the same time he came down with a 103.5 fever. So that gave him a week off. Once his fever subsided and we started riding again he was still slightly off. He was stiff in that leg, looked to be in his hock or his stifle. Well his owner came to look at him Thursday, he was doing pretty well.

She wanted to show him to some potential buyers Sunday. Well, when I brought him out he was lame. I still showed him to them anyways under the instruction of his owner. This was a bad idea. He was extremely spooky that day, he tried several times to run out from under me. Which only made his lameness worse. So that gave him another week off. Cold hosing everyday and hand walking only. He was still lame by the end of the week. His owner took him home to get xrays. His xrays came back clean and they think it was a soft tissue injury. She treated it with numotizne (sp?) and poultice. That set us back yet another week.

That brings us to the beginning of this week. He has been 100% on that leg. I have only been allowed to do straight lines with him, trotting only. No lunging, since he hasnt been ridden in 2 weeks the beginning of our rides this week were rather interesting. She brought people out yesterday to look at him. They really liked him and ended up buying him. Well, once they left his owner informs me that he is now lame on his left hind. I knew he felt weird, when I take the right lead I can feel him struggling in the hind and really not wanting to go forward at all. But UGH! I have missed all but one of our 4 tests we have had this year because of him going lame and me being behind. Including my mid-term.

This is so frustrating, im worried im going to get a bad grade because of it. But what can you do? I can't help the fact that he is sore 85% of the time. The only thing she told me to do is keep up with straight lines. Put liniment on both hind and put standing wraps on at night. She also mentioned "give him bute sometime before finals im not really worried about it". I need to work on my leads, his right lead is his worst way. An that strains his left hind the most. Im allowed to lope but I cannot push him that much. Given I only have about 5 weeks left of school I need him to stay sound as I can.

Kudos for anyone reading. I need to bend, counter bend, do pivots, rollbacks, moving hips. But very minimal, I cannot do what I want to do without him going lame. So frustrating!!!
     
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    03-16-2012, 04:51 PM
  #2
Yearling
Fingers & toes crossed here!!
     
    03-16-2012, 04:53 PM
  #3
Yearling
It is incredibly frustrating when any horse you are working with won't stay sound, I cannot imagine having the added pressure of a grade.
I do not see how your instructor could fault you, though.
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    03-16-2012, 05:02 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I agree, Hope everything goes well :)
     
    03-16-2012, 05:03 PM
  #5
Trained
Sorry, dumb question, but why if the horse is both for sale and being used in a class, was the vet not called immediately when it became apparent the horse was quite lame. There is for sure a soft tissue injury, and now with all the work the horse has been doing with the injury, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 6 month layup in this horses future and who knows if it is even capable of being sound again at this point. I would talk to your prof, explain what happened, say you made a dumb mistake and feel the horse needs to be allowed the rest of the term off, with veterinary care, to see if he will come right again. I also hope for the sake of the people that bought the horse, apparently without a vet check, that there is no contract and they can at least sue for purchase price and vet bills, if not make the seller take the horse back.
What a shady owner..

ETA I'm also a but dumbfounded that the university itself hasn't stepped in.. this is a welfare issue as well and if the prof is allowing the horse to be ridden while lame without a full veterinary exam... I hope he at least gets a talking to. If he fails you for having a lame horse, you can go to the university and complain.
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    03-16-2012, 05:37 PM
  #6
Trained
So you're going to a school to learn to be a horseman and they allow you to ride a lame horse? Sounds like a good time to ask for a refund.
     
    03-16-2012, 06:03 PM
  #7
Green Broke
The school is at the owners mercy. He is just off not crippled, if he gets any worse they will yank me off him. I will explain further later
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    03-16-2012, 06:14 PM
  #8
Green Broke
If a horse wasnt sound enough to lung and was green, I would not ride him. It sounds like the owner is not overly smart in this department. Having a young horse trying to learn while he's in pain can permanently taint his veiw of work.
     
    03-16-2012, 07:01 PM
  #9
Yearling
If a horse is "just off" I would not ride it until it was sound, especially as it's been "just off" for a while. I'm also as confused as everyone else on this thread. Can you not say to your lecturer or even someone higher up the foodchain that the horse is lame and therefore you can't, in good conscience, continue to use it this semester?

Even if the horse is "at the owner's mercy," surely yourself and the university have some decisonmaking power over whether or not it can be used in the course.
     
    03-16-2012, 07:24 PM
  #10
Trained
"just off" sounds a lot like lame to me but what do I know. I would think that the owner would be at the scholls mercy.
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