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post #1 of 11 Old 06-07-2011, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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Canines in Mares?

Of course it's possible, but how is it that 2 out of my 3 mares have had canines when it's typically a stallion/gelding thing? Or am I wrong and it's more common in mares than I thought???

My welsh pony cross had her canines clipped when she was 4 years old, we discovered them when she was floated and because she'd developed a really bad habit of flipping her nose up when I took up a contact. So they were clipped off, the gums healed over, and all is good again.

My Clyde/TB mare is now 4 years old and has developed a NASTY habit of thrusting her nose to the ground. As a draft cross she's got a strong, thick neck and unseats me nearly every time this happens. I've had a dressage trainer start working with her - had one ride in April that looked like this:



It's only now started drying up enough to have this trainer put more hours on Eve, but at her last ride Eve was being impossible - would not walk without THRUSTING her nose to the ground. Trotting and cantering were better she seemed to have something to focus on, but at the walk she was just..."rude" as my trainer described it.

Before really getting into Eve and working on her nose thrusting issue, I had the vet out yesterday to float her teeth. He sais there were some ridges, since she hadn't been done since last spring, but nothing too bad. So I explained what was going on with her riding and he felt around her mouth a bit - found 2 canines under the gums on the top.

Super.

He said they could take months, could take years, to officially erupt enough to clip. Until then I asked about maybe switching to a rubber bit, act as a "teething ring" like we give to kids and actually encourage the canines out - he said it wouldn't work like that and if I want her comfortable, I'll stick to a hackamore or a bitless.

I've just put so much into Eve already that switching to a bitless, although I know I have to and actually already have switched, seems like starting over. Head up, nose out, reteaching whoa and turning and everything...I was looking forward to finally getting somewhere with her now that she seems to have her wits about her and less "baby brain" - not starting from scratch again.

Has anyone else here had to work around canines? Canines in mares especially? Any advise? Tips? Tricks maybe? Any sharing of experience would be appreciated! Thanks!

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post #2 of 11 Old 06-08-2011, 02:29 AM
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Are her canines in a strange place that the bit is rubbing on them so severely? Typically the teeth are situated far enough in front of the bit so as not to cause problems. Or am I missing something?

I have two mares, one of which used to have two small canines on her left side. I say "used to have," because I'll be ****ed if they didn't somehow up and vanish. I don't know if they were so small that they weren't securely rooted and just fell out, or what.
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my brother's mare just turned four and the canines have just erupted. We joke that she had her baby before she had all her teeth! I have heard conflicting information. A BM friend told me only geldings/stallions get them, but my uncle talked about pulling his mares... I wonder if it is a breed thing?
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post #4 of 11 Old 06-08-2011, 10:53 AM
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If you mean Wolf teeth, although it is more prevalent in geldings/stallions, it is not uncommon in mares.

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My mare had one wolf tooth. Vet took it out ages ago.
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Yep, most of the horses(mares and geldings) at the farm I board at have had their wolf teeth taken out. I am sure you could probably have her sedated and have them surgically removed, but I don't know what the cost and/or healing time would be for something like that.
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I would be THRILLED if they were wolf teeth since then they could be removed...but the vet himself confirmed they're canines, and yes, they're situated further back towards the molars than normal. So not only is she odd for having canines period, she has them in an uncommon spot so bit use is out of the question.

They're still under the gums maybe 1/2 inch in front of her molars - right where the bit goes. Typically they're at least half way between the front and back teeth so as to allow bit use with minimal discomfort. I dunno...she's wierd.

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I would be THRILLED if they were wolf teeth since then they could be removed...but the vet himself confirmed they're canines, and yes, they're situated further back towards the molars than normal. So not only is she odd for having canines period, she has them in an uncommon spot so bit use is out of the question.

They're still under the gums maybe 1/2 inch in front of her molars - right where the bit goes. Typically they're at least half way between the front and back teeth so as to allow bit use with minimal discomfort. I dunno...she's wierd.
I just checked with a very good tooth doctor in our area. His name is Brian Borg of Advanced Equine Dental Log In | Facebook

He said that canines in mares are usually very shallow and can usually be extracted by a trained professional. He is in Southern California so he probably can't help you directly but maybe if you check his website or FB he can recommend someone. (?)
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Interesting...I assume I'd need xrays of the canines before attempting to remove them though, to ensure that they are in fact more shallow. Thanks for the input! :)

For now it's just the waiting game, waiting for them to poke through the gums. Looks like we're learning the bitless and working on her ground manners a bit!

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I have never heard of removing canines.....Interesting
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