Can't rid horse of bloodworms
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Keeping and Caring for Horses > Horse Health

Can't rid horse of bloodworms

This is a discussion on Can't rid horse of bloodworms within the Horse Health forums, part of the Keeping and Caring for Horses category
  • How to rid horses of worms
  • Bloodworm treatment quest

Like Tree5Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    06-13-2013, 07:11 AM
  #1
Weanling
Can't rid horse of bloodworms

Have had our mare for almost 2 years. She has never had a neg fecal, this is our third attempt to rid her of them this year. The second time this year (with a new vet) she had 5 days of panacur..still had them. This time she is on a dose and a half for 5 days, and Quest on day 6. Both were from reccomendation from Ohio State. This time she is being confined either in a paddock where there are no other horses or her stall. We are just going on day 3. Just wonder if any one else has or has had this problem and maybe anything that rid your horse of these dang worms. I checked with the BO and except for a couple horses he they are worm free.
Our mare does not look wormy though, I am getting ready to put the grazing muzzles on both my horses. Thanks a lot guy and gals , I am just concerned if this treatment doesn't help.

Oh the vet said the OSU stated that either the pastures are highly contaminated, she is resistant, she is suceptible or all 3. I don't think it is the pasture as my gelding is out there and the others and I know for a fact he was negative.
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    06-13-2013, 02:11 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Horses have worms.. and need regular worming to manage them. It sounds like your horse has small strongyles. The horse is reinfected every time she eats hay or anything on the ground.

Sooo.. the way to manage worms is to set up a worming schedule with your vet.

In all my years of owning horses I have never had a negative fecal. The issue is to attempt to keep the count (load) as low as possible through management.
Foxhunter and amigoboy like this.
     
    06-13-2013, 03:27 PM
  #3
Super Moderator
I'm thinking that you mean what we call redworm in the UK?
If the grounds contaminated (which it must be) you'll never get rid of them and if you move her she should really be quarantined until she's clear
She might have a resistance to the active ingredient so you need to change that and be sure you're also treating for encysted worms because they do the most damage.
Everyone on the facility needs to worm at the same time and if possible rotate grazing areas and chain harrow, hot dry weather helps reduce them and people used to graze a few cattle on contaminated land as they are able to ingest them which reduces the problem. All poo should be removed daily
     
    06-13-2013, 08:47 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Did you do the Pancur powerpack for 5 days or just the regular panacur for 5 days? Big difference between the two. If you did the powerpack then Quest is the next best thing. You might need to do some pasture/paddock management though to get it under control.
     
    06-13-2013, 09:42 PM
  #5
Weanling
Elana...really? I board so I can't really do the managing myself. Horses are somewhat rotated, but most of the year they are in the same pasture. I asked the vet about the powerpak before I ordered and she said the regular 1 1/2 tubes doseage for 5 days, then the quest on the 6th day. I can;t imagine what OSU will recommend if this doesn't clear them up! Poor thing was so sweaty in the stall yesterday (no fans allowed on when no one there) so I asked vet if I could move her to the front paddock where no horses are unless they are new or injured or medical reasons, anyways she was not really recommending that because we don;t know for sure if that area is contaminated, but since their are no regular horses that is where I put her. I can't see anything in her poo...I don't know, it is always something..
I do clean up any poo in the area that my horses are in by themselves..daily, but my two and 7 others graze together. I certainly cannot clean up after all nine that are in one area, it is many acres as well so that is out of the question. Thank you all, I have read up on the encysted worms as well so will talk to her about that too.
     
    06-13-2013, 09:54 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Sorry but the powerpak is 57grams per tube and the regular is only 25grams so even two regular tubes per day isn't enough.
Posted via Mobile Device
     
    06-14-2013, 08:44 AM
  #7
Super Moderator
You might find this info helpful too.
I know its difficult when you board and not easy to dictate to the owner but he/she is charging you and the others for a service and part of that should be to supply a good safe grazing environment and pasture management is part of that
More acreage does reduce the risks and horse will avoid the contaminated 'toilet' areas where they can but the larvae will 'travel' and get taken in with grass as the horse eats.
HORSE WORMING from Jonathan Wood Ltd
     
    06-14-2013, 09:00 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by garlicbunny    
Elana...really? I board so I can't really do the managing myself. Horses are somewhat rotated, but most of the year they are in the same pasture. I asked the vet about the powerpak before I ordered and she said the regular 1 1/2 tubes doseage for 5 days, then the quest on the 6th day. I can;t imagine what OSU will recommend if this doesn't clear them up! Poor thing was so sweaty in the stall yesterday (no fans allowed on when no one there) so I asked vet if I could move her to the front paddock where no horses are unless they are new or injured or medical reasons, anyways she was not really recommending that because we don;t know for sure if that area is contaminated, but since their are no regular horses that is where I put her. I can't see anything in her poo...I don't know, it is always something..
I do clean up any poo in the area that my horses are in by themselves..daily, but my two and 7 others graze together. I certainly cannot clean up after all nine that are in one area, it is many acres as well so that is out of the question. Thank you all, I have read up on the encysted worms as well so will talk to her about that too.
You are in Ohio so it sounds like strongyles. Get a species so you can share that.. it might help.

IME I always had positive fecals and simply wormed regularly. The introduction of Ivermectin based wormers was a nice break through as it also helped to control other things and it reduced the frequency of worming and reduced the need for rotating wormers as much. Ivermectin actually made large strongyles a much smaller threat (large strongyles can clog arteries).

I just put my horses on a worming schedule and wormed at regular intervals. This could be 4 weeks or 6 weeks. In a dry lot, shared pasture situation pre-ivermectin days we wormed horses every 2-3 weeks. In fact, continuous feeding by the Strongid C method is still out there.

Like I said. I never had a negative fecal. I managed the worming and had healthy horses. Interestingly, horses can develop a certain amount of immunity to some worm species.
     
    06-14-2013, 04:02 PM
  #9
Weanling
Thank you Jaydee and Elana. She constantly eats and really needs to lose weight. Do you think she eats constantly because of the worms? Is that maybe a symptom of worms? She turned 6 in April, it's pretty scary how they might be affecting her! Sure hope what we are doing now works..
     
    06-14-2013, 04:37 PM
  #10
Super Moderator
Its surprising but if a horse has a plentiful supply of food they can stay fat and still have a heavy worm burden. They can cause a horse to have a depraved appetite when they will eat too much even their own poop but some horses are just plain greedy!!!
They can stay encysted for a few years and all the time will be causing irritation, ulcers and then possibly anemia. I knew a woman that had a lovely young horse euthanized because it was unrideable - and I mean it was really bad no exaggeration - no worms ever showed up in its fecal egg counts but the autopsy she had done to see if something was internally wrong showed that it was absolutely riddled with encysted worms that must have been causing it a lot of pain
I'm sorry if I'm being a bit scary about this but they are something to take seriously so I hope you can get on top of it
     

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
When do you realize enough is enough? -getting rid of a horse- Cowgirls Boots Horse Talk 20 10-21-2012 07:50 PM
How can I get rid of my horse's lice?? First time horse owner Horse Health 23 06-15-2011 11:18 PM
Lets get rid of old horse... Why not? kitten_Val Horse Talk 26 09-19-2010 01:52 AM
Thinking about getting rid of my horse. JavaLover Horses for Sale 12 01-03-2010 03:28 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0