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post #1 of 11 Old 02-09-2009, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs down Catching himself with his back feet

i have a 5 year old TB and i have owned him for the past year ... he is realy coming along great, we are working him towards being a hunter. recently when we canter he is cutting himself open with his back hoof, and when we jump more then 2' i dont know what to do ... i dont really like using polos and im not allowed to show in polos or boots anyways ... anyone have any suggestions ?
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post #2 of 11 Old 02-09-2009, 05:18 PM
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It's called forging . When was he trimmed last? Does the farrier know he forges? A few other things that can cause a horse to forge:

1) not collected, a strung out horse may forge more often
2) Riders position
3) bad footing
4) shoulder or back muscle issues. Muscle problems in the front can cause a shorter step in the front. In other words the front legs aren't getting out of the way of the back ones.
5) conformation

I'd start with my farrier and then call a chiro or my vet.

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post #3 of 11 Old 02-09-2009, 05:23 PM
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Your not allowed overreach boots? That was going to be my suggestion.

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post #4 of 11 Old 02-09-2009, 11:27 PM
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You need to explain to your farrier/shoer what's going on and have him/her "fix" the problem. If your farrier says there's nothing wrong, then you need to find a new farrier and get a second opinion.

If that doesn't go anywhere, then you need to talk to a good equine chiropractor (preferably one that's also a vet) and/or a vet.

Forging or overreaching that bad is NOT normal and should be able to be fixed, once you figure out the root cause of the issues. I would start with the feet/trim and work your way up from there.
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It sounds like he is over reaching, i used to look after an anglo arab who used to do this alot. Not to the extend that he would hurt himself but it was enough to make us concerned. We got him some over reach boots which kept coming off in the mud so we also got him something ( i cant remember the name of them for the life of me) but it was like a horse rubber anklet if that makes any sence. It was made of rubber and it went around the hoof just before the coronet band/hoof wall. If anybody knows what im talking about please let me know, its bugging me that i cant remember the name of it. But we got him that and it would stop him from hitting his front feet when walking, after a couple of months he got into the habbit of not over reaching as much. I think some people also use what we braught for horses that paw. Sorry if this is hard to understand the way i tried to explain it.

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post #6 of 11 Old 02-10-2009, 09:25 AM
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My TB did the same thing when i first got him.
his feet are probably long in the back. thats what happens alot of the time
or muscling may be an issue.

try getting his feet done,
and if that doesnt do it, change your farrier or talk to him about it

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post #7 of 11 Old 02-10-2009, 08:57 PM
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Are you allowed to wear over reach boots I was going to suggets that too
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i will have to try the over reach boots and see if they make a difference ... he just got his feet done so thats not the problem ... and my dad is a massage therapist and he gives my horses back check ups all the time and everything is fine ... he has only just started to do it when we jump bigger like 2'9" to like 3' is when i notice it ... he has been good the last couple of days
but thank you all so much for your replies
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post #9 of 11 Old 02-14-2009, 08:18 PM
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jemmamalone.......I believe what you are referring to are bell boots.

I can see livetoride's problem as NOTHING is allowed on the front legs of a horse shown hunter. Some schooling shows may waive the rules but not many.

Here is what may help ( outside of what G and K's Mom posted on her list).

The horse needs to get his front feet out of the way and reduce the forward reach of the rear legs somewhat. This can be accomplished in a few ways. For the front feet the shoe or hoof needs to be "rolled" at the front so he breaks over quicker and gets his front legs out of the way of the rear ones.

You can also, if he has rear shoes have the shoes set bit farther back on the hoof and this will cause the horse to be a bit slower in the hind end.

None of these measures should harm the horse in any way.
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post #10 of 11 Old 02-16-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by livetoride View Post
he just got his feet done so thats not the problem .
That's not necessarily true. Your farrier could be trimming him incorrectly for his conformation and way of going. I would talk to another farrier and explain the problem. See what he/she says about possibly improving the feet.

A horse that overreaches usually has toes that are too long. Bringing back the toes either with a square toed or rolling the toes on the fronts will usually help, as the front leg will spend less time on the ground and get out of the way quicker. A slightly shorter toe on the back might be in order as well.

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