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    08-01-2011, 08:57 PM
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Showing
Changing up Sky's diet

Sky is my 17hh Dutch Warmblood American Paint mix around 1400lbs (I also need to retake his weight because it's been awhile.) So after much research and guidance from FeedXL, I have devised a pretty good diet.

His diet right now consists of a can of grain in the morning (I WILL start weighing it!), before his 2 flakes of mix (in pasture, so it's not always accurate unfortunately) and a can of grain at night, with another 2 flakes of hay.

Now, he will be working up to 4 lbs of grain in the morning (probably a pound increase from what he is getting,) with 5 grams of loose trace minerals (started that a few days ago and he seems to be doing fine) with with his 2 flakes of mix and 8lbs of grass hay (around 2-3 flakes) with an ounce of Equine generator and 1 ounce of Di-Methionine powder (he is allergic to most hoof crack remedies and this proves to work) and then for the afternoon, 4 lbs of grain with 5grams of loose trace minerals, 8lbs of grass hay, then his 2 flakes of mixed.

To clarify, his grain is Nutrena Safe Choice.. which he loves. The goal is to GAIN weight, and to maintain healthy weight. The Equine Generator: http://www.bio-vet.com/2008%20Tech%2...ch10142009.pdf was recommended and I'm going to try it first to make sure he isn't allergic.. that would be tragic :/

Oh and at times he gets sliced apples and carrots along with Peppermint MannaPro Bite-Size Nuggets as a treat, or to add texture. I do not add a lot of the little peppermint nuggets. They are so small and hard, it makes me paranoid that he will choke on them if they are with his grain.....

Does this sound reasonable? I just want to make sure all of his bases are covered. He DOES have access to clean water but I have to take him out of his pasture lot to graze him since there are so many horses it turned into a muddy mess...

And also to add, I do not compete. I merely use him for pleasure riding and trails and I ride him about an hour or so every other day.. but he is such a hard keeper and it is VERY hard to keep weight on him. A fun tidbit.. we are learning to canter :P
     
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    08-02-2011, 02:28 PM
  #2
Foal
I have a hard keeper too and I know how frustrating it is to keep weight on.. I've been through so many grains, and I really really love the sentinel line from blue seal. My guy gets sentinel lifetime, which has a little extra joint support in it, but the sentinel performance is good as well. Both have added probiotics in them, and they're just really an overall great grain! I fed safechoice, and it didnt do too much for me because it's only 7% fat and it made my thoroughbred hot from the 14% protein, but I have friends who feed it and their horses look great. If it works for your horse, then I think your plan sounds reasonable! But I would definitely check out the sentinel feeds
     
    08-02-2011, 05:21 PM
  #3
Foal
I'm curious, What loose trace minerals do you use??
I've been trying to find some but haven't been successful!

I think the new diet sounds pretty comprehensive. I personally like Safe Choice along with flax oil and beet pulp when trying to add weight.
     
    08-02-2011, 07:36 PM
  #4
Showing
Thanks guys!

Yeah he loves his Safechoice but I am still playing around with his diet (slowly of course!)

I use Champions Choice loose trace minerals. Comes in a 50lb bag for $7 at Murdochs. Here's the product info link: Cargill Salt: Products - Agriculture - Champions Choice - CC TM Bag and Block

I recommend no more than a tablespoon per grain serving.. you definitely don't want to overdue it!

I got a few recommendations from a farrier today on Sky's hoof nutrition and overall health so I'll be slowly implementing them as the months pass.. and will be updating this thread with my progress incase you all are interested in the changes and maybe they would work with your horse too.
     
    08-03-2011, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Thanks guys!


I use Champions Choice loose trace minerals. Comes in a 50lb bag for $7 at Murdochs. Here's the product info link: Cargill Salt: Products - Agriculture - Champions Choice - CC TM Bag and Block

I recommend no more than a tablespoon per grain serving.. you definitely don't want to overdue it!
This is an inferior product as far as a mineral source. It's 98% salt and only provides 4 trace minerals that typically horses do not have deficiencies in because they are required in such small amounts. If you feed any type of fortified feeds, they are added. Also, the amount being fed (2 T is 1 oz) doesn't satisfy a typical horse's requirement for salt if they aren't receiving additional salt free choice. My horses intake has doubled to amost 5 oz per day for the summer.

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Originally Posted by EquestEquine    
I'm curious, What loose trace minerals do you use??
I've been trying to find some but haven't been successful!
Instead of a trace mineral product, you should be looking for a quality loose mineral/vitamin blend. You are more apt to have deficiencies in the macro minerals as well as Vit A. The 2 quality nationally available products out there that I have found are ADM's Grostrong and Progressive Nutrition's loose minerals (both are around $.04/oz). They both have grass and alfalfa blends to complement your forage. The key to look for is a product that has no more than 25% salt. If you feed grass hays, look for something with twice as much Ca as P. It also should have a vit A value around 100,000 IU/#. If it isn't full of salt, it's going to have all the other stuff. You also shouldn't be paying a premium for salt. Add extra if they need it.
     
    08-05-2011, 11:28 PM
  #6
Showing
Well there's quite a bit of salt in his other stuff that he eats, but his pasture doesn't have any salt blocks (which aren't much better..) so at least I'm doing something. He has a choice whether to eat it or not, I never force him into it. But he has been drinking more lately, which is a definite improvement so I'm happy, and he's very happy.

I'm still messing around with is diet, I had a few recommendations from my new farrier and when he's all out of his safechoice (eh..) then we'll gradually make the switch
     

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