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post #1 of 6 Old 05-03-2011, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
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Chanti's lameness saga...maybe her knee??

haven't updated lately because I've just been busy with other things but since she came up lame the first time, back in march she had been rested in the pasture. As of Sunday she has taken a bad turn and is worse. We are in the area of northeast Arkansas that has had flooding although we weren't affected by flood waters, the pasture stayed sloppy though so both horses have some thrush and there was no way around that.
Friday night we had some cousins come over because they had to be evacuated and that evening Chanti wasn't sore at all. She was moving out without a limp, appeared energetic, so I figured it would be ok to saddle her up and let my younger cousin ride, at a walk, for just a little bit.
As we were saddling her, her right front leg would buckle a little and she was swishing her tail a lot but didn't seem to be agitated. Hubby got on first, rode her at a walk and she was fine. Little cousin got on, I led her at a walk and Chanti kept trying to walk past me, she didn't want to stand still, seemed antsy and that isn't normal behavior for her. So after just 10 minutes we ended the ride.
There was no heat, no swelling. Saturday morning she was sore at a trot so we didn't ride her. Sunday it was raining again so we didn't mess with them and yesterday the horses were behind the pond and my husband found her standing in a little creek that was flowing out and her right front leg was between two little branches. I don't know if she slipped in and got stuck or just happened to step down like that on her own and was eating the little bushes there. There was heat towards the back of the knee, about an inch above her chestnut and to me it looks like there's some very slight swelling starting there and going down to her knee.
She stands a lot of the time with her right front extended out, heel slightly raised a little and when she walks she lands toe first then heel but she's very careful about it. I can pick up that leg, stretch it forward, back,etc and she doesn't resist at all but if I pick up her left leg the right leg starts to buckle.
I cold hosed the leg for about 10-15 mins today, applied Thermaflex liniment then put her sport boots on her because last time it seemed to help. I had 3 doses of Bute left so gave her 1 g.
The only thing I know is to cold hose it, apply the liniment and rest her. All I have is pasture, no stall, and something or someone has been spooking them so they've been running at night so that isn't helping anything.

Just so ready to have a horse to ride again!
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post #2 of 6 Old 05-03-2011, 01:01 PM
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So, um, were you going to call a vet?

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post #3 of 6 Old 05-03-2011, 01:05 PM
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So, um, were you going to call a vet?
My thought exactly.

Have you considered making a smaller fenced area (round pen panels, or step in posts with hot lines) to keep her more contained?
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post #4 of 6 Old 05-03-2011, 01:29 PM
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Isn't this the same horse that was having possible neurological problems as well as other lameness issues? Did you ever figure that one out? I personally wouldn't have been using her for riding without getting that cleared away first... Hope you can get her straightened out soon. If she has heat and swelling in the knee, it's definitely time to call the vet and see if they think she needs to be seen, if nothing else, they could tell you how to proceed, be it cold hosing, wrapping, or confinement...

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post #5 of 6 Old 05-04-2011, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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Yes we're going to get her to a vet when we can afford it. That last vet bill put us behind and we have other priorities right now. Yes, it is the same horse the vet said may have EPM but she thought it was her shoulder then bothering her, not her knee. She was better for a while. It has stayed so muddy out here that she very well could have slipped and pulled something. I don't think she's abcessing. As soon as I run my hand down her leg she lifts it away from me as soon as I reach that spot by her chestnut.
I'm still trying to get a farrier out too.
We did have them fenced off in a little 1/4 or 1/2 acre square while we let the pasture grow some but we had to take the fence down. It was still big enough that she could run in it though.
I need a stall and I don't have one. She's never been cooped up so I know she'd throw a fit about it, atleast in a stall she couldn't try to get out and hurt herself though.
I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing with her, resting her and hosing the leg and putting liniment on. We just simply can't afford a vet bill right now and our only option for a vet is the crappy one in town. He's more a dog and cat vet and I don't even think he could xray her feet to rule out founder. I'd love to get her xrayed to see where the problem is.
Do you think putting her on a joint supplement would help now and possibly prevent future problems?
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Yesterday while I was brushing her I checked her pastern because when I lifted her hoof it felt very hot around the heel and when I pressed on her heel she didn't flinch or anything so I started checking her pastern and I felt the pulse on the inside of her pastern, down low. It seemed to be throbbing a bit harder than the sound foot and when I squeezed her she jerked it away. Any time I hold that foot up or do anything to it she always sniffs and nudges at it, like it hurts her. I couldn't see any sign of an abcess but above and behind her knee was still sore and to me it still looks like there's some swelling. It just looks different. I cold hosed it about 15-20 minutes, then rubbed Thermaflex on it and she seemed to be walking a bit better for a while after that. I watched her graze in the yard and going uphill doesn't bother her as much as going downhill and there were a few times she stabbed her toe into the ground to prevent putting all her weight down. She has a hard time backing up.
I watched her in the pasture this morning and she's still limping but it doesn't appear to be as severe.
I found a couple very small nicked spots on her lower leg as I hosed it yesterday but I don't think they have anything to do with this problem.

Once she is sound again she'll probably only be used for putting kids on and being led around.
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