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    02-01-2012, 01:16 PM
  #11
Green Broke
Here's a couple links that talk about the Dex "suppression" test vs. the ACTH blood test.

"suppression" means just that. Enough dex is injected into the horse to suppress glucose - then see what the test results show.

I can't find my good article that discusses both at the same time. These will at least get you informed on both types of tests so you can make an informed decision - regardless of what your vet suggests

How to Test for Equine Cushing's Disease | eHow.com

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The dexamethasone suppression test may cause the blood vessels in the hooves to constrict and increase the risk and severity of laminitis, according to Penn State University. Horses with Cushing's disease are already more susceptible to developing laminitis, a dangerous disease involving swelling in the hooves.


EQUINE CUSHINGS DISEASE

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The test regime I am using now is to measure endogenous ACTH, cortisol, insulin and glucose from venous blood samples at 0900 hours before the morning feed and in a quiet environment. This is a simple test to use, although the blood cells have to be separated from the plasma and the sample kept frozen prior to testing. This test does not run the risk of inducing or worsening laminitis following the administration of a corticosteroid. It will differentiate between pituitary dependent Cushing's cases and those animals with obesity related laminitis
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My Old Country Cow vet (not my vet anymore) wanted to do the dex test on my senior horse five years ago and I wouldn't let him. He did the ACTH blood test instead.

It's a good thing because, even though this horse has "perripheal cushings", he is not cushings (that's pretty confusing, I know). Point-being, my horse would've stood a good chance of foundering with the dex test. We're going on five years since formal diagnosis and, so far, his hooves are acutally healthier/tougher now than they've ever been.
     
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    02-01-2012, 04:31 PM
  #12
Started
Thanks! I will definitely read those in depth in a little while... Gotta get hw done, been procrastinating all day! I really appreciate yalls help! I've ordered the chastetree to start Hunter on when I get it in. I will probably make another thread to keep updates on him :) right now he's shaved though so idk how much difference I'll see in his coat, but it's growing back and hopefully with the powder it won't grow back so long and will shed out properly this spring!
     
    02-01-2012, 04:35 PM
  #13
Yearling
Petey the Pony, who has cushings, gets 4cc's of Pergolide daily
     
    10-14-2012, 09:11 PM
  #14
Foal
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Originally Posted by amp23    
I am currently switching Hunter from CortaFlex to MSM, waiting on the CF to run out :) we'll see how that works for him! Should I start off with just 1 tablespoon of the chastetree and possibly work up to more after I see how it works for him? Or should I start with less?

Here are 2 sites where I found the powder:
Chaste Tree Berry Powder | Horse Endocrine Supplements | Equine Supplements > Endocrine Health | DePAOLO EQUINE CONCEPTS - DePaolo Equine Concepts
Horse Herbs Naturally - Herbs!
JUST AN ADDITION TO YOUR RESEARCH...I TREAT NOT JUST NATURALLY BUT PRACTICE AYURVEDA FOR HORSES..FEEL FREE TO VIEW MY SITE AND/OR CONTACT ME FOR DETAILS..Neachai- Equine Ayurveda
CHASTE TREE BERRY IS VERY EFFECTIVE FOR CUSHINGS AND EMS HORSES AND PONIES! IT IS DEFINITELY A FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE FOR US! GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH....THERESA
     
    11-06-2012, 02:41 PM
  #15
Foal
Very good response... my gelding has also been "unofficially" diagnosed with cushings and I started him on chastetree 2 months ago... now that his winter coat is starting to grow in I can't really tell if the chasteberry is doing anything yet? But I have confidence that by spring I will see a major improvement in him... I am also feeding one heaping tablespoon daily for now and will be switching to 1/4 cup in feb...
     
    11-06-2012, 02:43 PM
  #16
Foal
Sorry, I did that wrong.... very good response was meant for walkinthewalk !!!
     
    12-03-2012, 10:30 PM
  #17
Started
Here's some good info on the use of Chaste tree berry in Cushing's horses :)
Eye of the Storm Equine Rescue: equine cushings
     
    01-14-2013, 03:46 PM
  #18
Foal
Exclamation My experience with the chaste tree berry powder

I used this for my horse who was diagnosed with cushings last summer he got quite bad quickly, so we had researched the chaste tree berry powder and it seemed great, we put Gent on it and he dropped a ridiculous amount of weight in 2 weeks, he had his winter coat on which when I took it off I was horrified, His hip bones were sticking out and his spine was really visible to the point where you could see the vertebrae, he was drinking excessively and therefore urinating a load more where we had to pretty much empty half of his stable every day, we stopped it straight away and he's now on medication from the vet. We've had to put him on a build up feed and oil to gain weight again, I just felt I should share this with people that are considering using the chaste tree berry, I know every horse is different so reacts differently to things but I would strongly advise keeping a close eye on weight loss, excessive, drinking/urinating if you start to use it as he looked so terrible so quickly after starting it!
     

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