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  • Horse chiropactry vs massage
  • My horse has been fighting lead changes and just had the chiropractor adjusting her

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    01-29-2012, 02:35 PM
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Foal
Smile Chiropractic or Massage? Ideas?

Hi, everyone. I'm new on the forum. Journey has been a part of my life for two years now. She's an appy/qh grade mare. She has some issues with stiffness and flexibility in the neck. I do some flexiblity exercises with her.

She has had one chiropractic treatment, but at $40 for like 3 minutes, I can't see that happening too often.

I'd like to know if you all consider chiropractic for horses to be a viable option and what I should expect for my money from a treatment.

I'd also like to know of any good resources for massage/flexibility exercises I can do with her myself to get her more supple in the neck, side to side, mostly. The main thing I do right now is massage her withers and make her bend side to side to get a piece of carrot. Don't want to do anything wrong, but do want to save money and have the confidence that I'm helping her.

Thanks in advance.

This is also a test post, because I think the forum has been down all day here.
     
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    01-29-2012, 02:41 PM
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Trained
The forum has been down for me too, I was devastated when I needed something to kill time this morning and I couldn't get on O.O

Anyway, I really have had excellent experiences with chiropractors. It is beneficial to have them out more than once and in-sequence (Depending on your horses individual needs) but I know my gelding Rebel and my mare Selena both became dreams after they got adjusted. Rebel, before, would NOT run. He would not run, he would not turn, he would NOT round up and frame up for the show pen. One adjustment and I could lope a barrel pattern again and he would fly down the arena like his tail was on fire, then come right back and drop his head and round up for an equitation class.

Then, with Selena, she had trouble spinning to the right. She would bind up and then hop around, and she would get really pissed off when you tried to get more out of her. She would get stuck on flying lead changes too. After two adjustments in two weeks, she was a brand new horse.

I'm sure this sounds like an obnoxious drug commercial, but I was seriously almost ready to sell both of them because I thought they wouldn't have the ability to remain as show horses. I'm so glad they got adjusted because now I have two excellent horses that are winning prizes again.
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    01-29-2012, 02:45 PM
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Trained
Well, all I can tell is what my chiro does for my horses and any other horses I have seen her work on. This lady knows her stuff too, she teaches equine massage & chiropractic to others. First she has you trot out the horse, away from her & towards her. Then she does poll to spine evaluation. She will tell you what is out in your horse and show you and have you feel it. Then she does her adjustments, everything, hips, poll, neck, spine. She will have you feel again & look. Then she does massage on muscles affected by the adjustments. Then she has you trot them out again, and re-evaluates them. She comes back in two weeks and checks & adjusts again if needed. She charges $125 for the 2 treatments and spends about an hour the first time, less the second time, hopefully. She will also tell you what exercises you can do with your horse to help them, if needed.
     
    01-29-2012, 03:04 PM
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Foal
Wow, thanks. I had a feeling that the short duration of this guy's "evaluation" was a red flag. Grrrrr. When I asked him questions about what I could do to keep her more fit, he said, "Nothing". What the???? Other folks at my barn use him. Not many equine chiropractors in this area. I think I might be on my own here. Journey's not a show horse, just pleasure/companion. I can't afford big bucks. Hmm...what to do??

Thankfully, my barn has a good vet, a good dentist, and we have a great farrier. Journey is barefoot, super healthy feet. Super healthy all around, mostly. I just want to help her be the best she can be. I'll look into other chiros in the area.

Whew. Glad I wasn't kicked off the forum. I just found it! That was really wierd today.
     
    01-29-2012, 04:31 PM
  #5
Trained
I won't let an equine chiro come anywhere near my horse. Nor a human one touch me.
I have low back issues and I find that with correct strength training, stretching (yoga) and generally staying fit, as well as visiting a massage therapist keeps me pain free and energetic.
If I am working my horse correctly I also figure that between me and my RMT we can keep everything lined up. I say a million times, correct riding builds correct muscling, and it builds a correct horse too. Our goal in riding and training the horse is to make him better, not have to pump money into a chiropractor to keep him lined up so we can go screw it up riding them until next month. If you are working the horse right, he shouldn't "need" a chiro. My RMT rarely finds any muscle imbalances in my horse (and the ones she does are related to his hi-lo) and his massages are usually only relaxing and stretching. This is what we should aim for - a straight horse because he is ridden that way, not placed there by a chiro.

Just my $0.02...
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    01-29-2012, 05:02 PM
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Started
The day I let a chiropractor touch my horse will be the day Hell freezes over. I've heard too many horror stories. The idea of moving or adjusting bones just doesn't sit right with me. On top of that, I've never met a chiro that wasn't a quack.

Massage therapy is another story. I've actually been thinking about getting into it as a part-time career. Myofacial release therapy is supposed to be really good for horses and humans. I have a grandmother that goes for regular sessions, and she says her neck and back pain is gone. I imagine it's just as beneficial for horses.
     
    01-29-2012, 05:18 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by Jessabel    
The day I let a chiropractor touch my horse will be the day Hell freezes over. I've heard too many horror stories. The idea of moving or adjusting bones just doesn't sit right with me. On top of that, I've never met a chiro that wasn't a quack.

Massage therapy is another story. I've actually been thinking about getting into it as a part-time career. Myofacial release therapy is supposed to be really good for horses and humans. I have a grandmother that goes for regular sessions, and she says her neck and back pain is gone. I imagine it's just as beneficial for horses.
Exactly! My RMT swears by myofascial release and I have seen the crazy stuff it can do. The releases in the horses are also just remarkable. Some horses (like mine) are quite stoic, but some of them get so into it and will do full body "after rolling" type shakes even! It is amazing sometimes she will do myofascial releases, go back and check the horse and find where before the horse was "out" or whatever, they will have gone back to center on their own. It's really cool :)
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    01-29-2012, 05:25 PM
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Weanling
I prefer Osteo for my horses (And me) as its gentler - sounds like you got pretty ripped off to be honest... I would be looking around...

My osteo also has me trot out the horse and spends close to an hour.... she gives me stretches and things to do and my horse LOVES her... and is so loose afterwards :)
     
    01-29-2012, 05:26 PM
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Trained
I guess this would be a matter of finding a good chiro or not. Mine was very much sane....Though was very into the "natural remedy" thing. Sent me home with a lot of herbs to put in my horses feed. I'll be ****ed if they didn't work though. Unfortunately this Chiro also died in an accident about three months ago. First name was Lane, don't remember his last name. Do remember how amazing my horses felt afterwards though.
     
    02-02-2012, 02:38 AM
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Weanling
Pardon my ignorance, but is myofascia similar to fascia? We just had some massage work done a couple of days ago on our horse by a woman who works on muscle, fascia, and connective tissue. After 2 1/2 years of spending $$$$ (vet, chiro, acupunture) with no results and worrying about a short stride issue we see improvement after just one session! Money well spent as far as I'm concerned, and we're on a fairly tight budget (we just spend it like we have it with the horse ). She was there over 2 hours and worked most of the body. Our horse really liked most of it but there were some areas of extreme tenderness that the therapist couldn't work too much on without really upsetting the horse. She is coming again next week and is very optimistic that we will see serious improvement after a couple more sessions. Hopefully we will see continued success and will only require some maintenance sessions in the future. After seeing the horse going today I am very optimistic too, I just wish we would have found her earlier!
     

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