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    06-04-2008, 01:23 PM
Willy's beet pulp is soaked at least 8 hours before I mix it with his rice bran. Man, I can empathize with your situation though. I just started boarding Willy and I know it is kindof a pain to soak food in that situation. I usually soak it in the morning, or directly after the PM feeding.
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    06-04-2008, 01:55 PM
don't put alot of water in it, just enough to cover the grain, beet pulp, and rice bran...I'll usually let it soak for 5ish minutes....should I let it soak for more?
Yes, definitely let it soak for more than 5 mintues!! Dry beet pulp may not cause choking, but it will expand in his digestive system and can cause problems there! Check with your feed supplier for the beet pulp to water ratio. Mine was always 1 part beet pulp to 4 parts water. I have heard of 1:3, but definitely you need more than just enough to cover! I always soaked the beet pulp for 24 hours, kept it covered during that time, and then added the dry grain or pellets or medication or whatever at feeding time. If it's covered, you shouldn't have to worry about the little creatures getting into it. I wouldn't soak the grain because it's not good for grain to sit in water for a long time. Add it later!

And, no, it doesn't sound like Sonny is a choke risk based on his eating habits. Slow and easy is the way to go. If you do have to feed him near other horses, try adding the block of salt to his feed dish to slow him down.
    06-04-2008, 02:11 PM
What about 20-30 miinutes? I can soak it longer and have the BO soak it over night, but just thought it would be eaiser for her if she just put it in the grain bucket, soak the feeding of the other horses giving them water, and then putting it in for Sonny after it's soaked (it usually takes her 30 minutes to feed the lower horses, but I can check and see how long it usually takes her.
(note: I'm also only giving him half a cup of beetpulp so not alot)

Appy got me a webpage that said half as much water as beet pulp and to allow it 30 minutes to I'll see if the BO will do that for me...if not I'll have to take off the beet pulp

What about rice bran...does that need to be soaked?
    06-04-2008, 02:56 PM
No, rice bran does not need to be soaked, just added to the soaked beet pulp at feed time
    06-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Green Broke
Sorry, work kept me busy today ;)

What about having some containers with lids that you can fill up part way with beet pulp and part way with water (leave room for it to grow) - that way, all that your BO has to do is grab the container and dump it. You could fill them for a couple days ahead of time when you go out there (or, maybe she could fill them)??

The only part of Boo's feed that is soaked ahead of time is the beet pulp - the rest mushes up pretty easily. :)
    06-04-2008, 04:36 PM
Depending on how the weather is in Jersey right now (I assume it's getting warmer and more humid), the beet pulp may sour if left for a couple days soaked and ready to go....just something to consider.
    06-04-2008, 05:25 PM
I've had two episodes with choke, both were older appy geldings that were on beet pulp..the first wasn't my horse, and I was a witness more than anything. The second was my own horse, and I hadn't soaked it at all but he slobbers a lot and was bolting it down.
It was only once and I never fed it dry again.

I don't really soak it, I just add the same VOLUME of water as beet pulp shreds, pour off (to get excess sugars out) and add it again and feed right away. That's not what the instructions call for but it works just fine for me that way. And a side note, I've fed it dry (in small amounts of course !) to my younger horse and he's NEVER had any problems with it. Pelleted form is supposed to be more iffy than just shreds.

There's no proof that beet pulp can cause blockage in the gut, as it mixes with stomach fluids before moving on, it's the throat that's a problem because the throat isn't designed to "fill up" like the stomach is. Most Senior feeds contain dry beet pulp in the pellets and yet they can be fed dry safely.

My boy when he choked started pawing the ground and looking at his stomach-I really thought he it was colic. Then he yawed his mouth and tried to cough. I felt the big wad in his neck then. I ran a hose in his mouth and flushed it out while massaging his neck. Took about 15 minutes to get it all out, but as soon as he spat it out, he started eating again, like nothing had happened.

Not something I worry too much about happening again though. I wonder if older horses tend to have more problems with it due to flacid muscle tone in the neck? Or just a coincidence.
    06-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
what about 20-30 miinutes?
Why not try some at 30 minutes and another batch at 8, 12 or 24 hours (whatever works for you) and see what difference there is. I know that my beet pulp is NOT expanded after only 30 minutes and that equal parts pulp & water is also not enough. Maybe all beet pulp isn't the same. Why not check with the manufacturer?
    06-04-2008, 10:56 PM
I'm not sure if we still have the bag but I'll go back to where I got it (Tractor Supply) and check...unless someone knows here

I'll add more main concern was that Sonny's feeder on his fence is alot smaller than the one in his I wasn't sure if it would hold it all..

Also remember...not only was I soaking the beet pulp..but also the rice bran AND grain...and the beet pulp was on top....and I was using hot water (which the website I looked on said that would make it soak faster)

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