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    05-15-2014, 03:17 AM
  #11
Weanling
Okay, I'm seriously smacking my forehead right now. From Equestrian Life - Understanding the Sacroiliac Joint: PELVIC ROTATION – Sacroiliac injuries are characterised by visual asymmetry or rotation of the pelvis. ... This rotation is sustained or held in place by the powerful pull of the large back and pelvic muscles. It occurs in an attempt to alleviate pain following the initial injury.

Now I feel awful for brushing off SI injury last year just because he wasn't sore on that part of his rump.
     
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    05-15-2014, 12:35 PM
  #12
Foal
Sacroiliac joint issues are notoriously illusive and difficult to diagnose initially so it could definitely be that. Lyme disease would certainly be chronic, however, I see you are in Indiana. Where in Indiana are you? Lyme disease is more common up in the northwestern region of the state but fairly rare elsewhere in the state (not impossible though). I am also wondering if there is potentially something neurologic going on? One of my friend's horses was diagnosed with a somewhat rare chronic, neurological disorder and he had similar symptoms---she has just about had to give up on having his back hooves shod or trimmed. I will have to ask her the name of the disease...I'd like to think I am fairly familiar with most horsey issues but this was one even I had not really heard of.
     
    05-15-2014, 01:25 PM
  #13
Weanling
That's exactly where I am, in Northwest Indiana although I haven't noticed much in the way of a change in attitude. Just soreness. Definitely curious about the name of that disease!

I checked over his back really quickly today. Still flinching away from pressure on his mid/lower back. Something doesn't feel right on the sacrum, almost like it bulges on his right side. I went just past it and pressed down and under, and he dropped his hind end. So definitely reactive there. I'll check it on my mare so I can compare the two.
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    05-15-2014, 03:06 PM
  #14
Weanling
Alrighty, so I gave him a gram of bute with breakfast, poor boy is so sore
I checked the same area on my mare and it's much, much more reactive on Zeus.
Does anyone have any idea if I should put him in a stall? He's on a dry lot now and only moves around from hay bale, water, barn. Not sure if the exercise is helping or harming...
     
    05-15-2014, 05:03 PM
  #15
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My take on this is that the horse is misaligned not only in the sacro iliac but also in the diagonal shoulder. This causes tension across the back muscles, hence the sinking when you get on.

Several things can happen with a misaligned SI and depending on what has occurred depends on how the horse is treated.

When the chiro treated, how odd they adjust the SI? Was the diagonal shoulder treated?

If you lift his back legs can he stretch them right out behind him? If you turn him on his haunches, unmounted, can he bring his hind leg under him - both directions?

Interested to know.
     
    05-15-2014, 05:25 PM
  #16
Weanling
When she adjusts him, she gives a few light bounces and then one good one. He always jumps away at that one. He's fine with neck, ribs, etc. I actually have the sheets where she wrote what she adjusted, I'll take a picture and upload.

I'm pretty sure she didn't treat his shoulder as well. He has a club foot on his left fore, would that make any difference?

His back legs, while on DMG, were fairly easy to keep stretched out. But now, I have to hold them so low to the ground. He resists when I try to stretch them farther.

He does step across in back. When he first injured it, he would kick out when I made him disengage behind, which is what led me to call the Chiro. He hasn't kicked since the first adjustment. He really despises backing up as well. Lateral flexion in his head and neck is great though- might just be overachieving for treats. Haven't done stretches for a while, but it was just nose to elbow for 5 seconds.
     
    05-15-2014, 05:41 PM
  #17
Super Moderator
So she is trying to adjust him by using her hands on top of the SI?
     
    05-15-2014, 05:46 PM
  #18
Weanling
I think it was more on either side. I don't remember exactly

September:



November I used a different chiro.

April:

     
    05-15-2014, 08:32 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Sounds like the mare I have in my pasture, who has a SI issue.
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    05-16-2014, 02:32 AM
  #20
Super Moderator
Another question - if you try to lift his dock is it easy or does he clamp it down?

Thanks for the copies.

I cannot get into my pictures at the moment I wanted to show you how I adjust the SI
     

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