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    05-18-2014, 07:26 PM
  #51
Weanling
Jaydee- Thank you for that link! Lots of good info. "An altered way of walking" especially rang a bell. I'm honestly not sure about a hunter's bump. His croup is a little prominent, but I think that may be because his whole rump is under muscled. His pelvis does twist so the left is higher than the right. Chiro re-sets it every time, but it doesn't hold like it should.

Foxhunter- I tried to get some good pictures. Let me know if you need re-takes.





This one's from October. Bad hooves, they are much better now:


His pelvis was realigned on April 9th. It may or may not have held since then, my eye isn't trained enough to tell, unfortunately!

I did notice how tight he was holding his dock. Usually he lifts it while trotting. He was VERY back sore that day, so what you're saying about misalignment of the dock makes sense. Today there is almost no soreness on his left side of his lower back, but still reactive on the right. His tail has no resistance when I try to lift it now. Although he is periodically lifting it and holding to the right for a few moments- maybe trying to relieve some pain? Not sure. Lunging him that tight isn't a regular thing, I promise! I have a 25' line, but was trying to keep him in the video frame. Thank you so much for your replies, I've learned a ton from you!

KigerQueen, you crack me up. I don't mind you hijacking my thread

Trinity, his hooves were really distorted in October. I switched farriers and she's been doing a pretty good job of keeping everything in line. I only know the basics, like ELPO hoof mapping, but as far as I can tell, there's not much stretching left in the toe. So absolutely possible that it was contributing to the problem! I wish I knew about past injuries.

Saddlebag- Agree with you on the attitude. He usually works down from it, though. Headshaking and pinning ears when starting, then once he warms up and gets going he's fine.
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    05-19-2014, 12:56 PM
  #52
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His topline really does fit the profile of a horse with sacroiliac trouble but I'm not seeing any tilting in his pelvic area - but that doesn't always happen when the sacroiliac gets damaged
When something happens to cause that to happen new muscle forms around the area to hold it in place - and these muscles are huge and very strong. The chiro we had in the UK used a muscle relaxant under the vets supervision to make it easier to adjust the horse but once its been re-aligned it takes time for new muscle to develop to hold it in that new position or it will just slip back to where its got used to being so he would also recommend complete box rest for a while, then handwalking the horse several times a day with continued treatment to try to prevent that from happening
We had two horses boarded with us that made full recoveries after this method of treatment
     
    05-19-2014, 01:18 PM
  #53
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Treatment to realign can easily be done without muscle relaxants. Muscle memory can be altered so that it does hold the realignment in place.

I had a big heavyweight Irish Draught horse that was always wrong on his left side SI. No matter what happened it reverted to being out.

My human chiropractor who knew nothing about horses said he would have a look. We realigned the horse and then my chiro started huffing and puffing, thinking hard. He said he could only compare with what he had found with humans and that when a pelvis kept slipping then often it was a neck muscle that needed changing. He just gave the horse a few prods on the neck, found a hot spot, massaged it and that horse never went wrong again!
     
    05-19-2014, 01:20 PM
  #54
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From the pictures I would say he is right hind and left front. Front picture is not hat clear to see unevenness in muscle structure because of the shadow. Can you take another please?
     
    05-19-2014, 04:04 PM
  #55
Weanling
I'm excited for his vet appointment! Hoping he'll know which therapy is best for Zeus.

I have a picture of after he slipped, but while he was still in shape (when I thought it was still trouble in his hocks)


Foxhunter- I'll attach a few so you can get a better idea. Neither one are perfect, but it seems like as close as I can get. I'm hoping Zeus's issue will be resolved as easily as that one
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    05-20-2014, 04:49 PM
  #56
Weanling
*Sigh* Well, the vet's office just called and pushed me back until after Memorial Day because they've had so many emergency calls. So another week, but it's not a huge deal. We've lived with it this long She did say there's a possibility of him referring me to Purdue, but that sounds like a lot of $$. We'll see on Tuesday.
     
    05-27-2014, 02:31 PM
  #57
Weanling
Big update!
The vet came out, pushed and pulled his tail, shoulder, withers, etc. He said that there's definitely some neurological signs that something's off. He wants to put him on something called "Rebalance", a treatment for EPM. Said it was spread by possum poop, and there's a possum that lives right by, if not in, the barn! Right where we used to keep square bales before we switched to round. If it works, he'll show improvement in 1-2 months, and it costs a little less than $90 a month. So we'll try that!
     
    05-27-2014, 05:45 PM
  #58
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Some general info on EPM that might be of interest
EPMhorse ? Causes of the equine disease EPM
Treatment - includes some info on rebalance
EPMhorse ? Drugs and protocols for EPM treatment

There is only one good sort of possum around horses - a dead one.
     
    05-27-2014, 05:58 PM
  #59
Weanling
Thank you so much, that entire website is really helpful. I'm just very, very thankful that it's not a bad case. He's not stumbling, falling down, having trouble eating. I suspect that "stomping" his hind feet will be permanent, but who knows at this point.
I hate possums and this thing is huge. I haven't seen him for a few months, so I'm hoping he's gone for good. I'm setting some live traps just in case.
     

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