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post #1 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 07:25 AM Thread Starter
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Cleaning boy needed (WARNING very graphic)

Hi Guys,

I saw a thread a little white back about having to clean boys bits but cant seem to find it.

Today, i had the opportunity to take a photo of a very unclean dangly bit (gross i know but....sorry guys) that belongs to the horse that i ride.
I have spoken to his owner about needing to keep it clean and she has done this cleaning once but got kicked. he is NOT impressed with the idea at all. anyway, i've included a photo so you guys know what i'm talking about.

Now, how can i clean it without getting my head kicked in. i have no yards to use, he's already a touchy, nervous horse and trusts very few people. i'm not on his trusted list as yet but we're working on it.

anyway, sorry if the picture makes anyone squirm, but this is the nastiest i've ever seen. am thinking of consulting a vet about it but thought i'd talk to you guys first.



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post #2 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 07:59 AM
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wow...that is pretty nasty looking. I would maybe have a vet assist you in cleanig it. He/she will be able to sedate him or give you pointers in how to clean it safely. I agree with you that he badly needs to be cleaned. Have Fun!!!

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post #3 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Angel_Leaguer
wow...that is pretty nasty looking. I would maybe have a vet assist you in cleanig it. He/she will be able to sedate him or give you pointers in how to clean it safely. I agree with you that he badly needs to be cleaned. Have Fun!!!
Not sure there's going to be any 'fun' involved but it does need to be done so maybe i'll get the vet to help me.
in all my years of being around, owning and working with horses i have NEVER seen one as bad as this!

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post #4 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 12:45 PM
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A lot of people in my area do their yearly "teeth and sheath" with the vet, taking care of both jobs while their horse is sedated. 2 of my geldings don't care one bit about being messed with down there. I use a sheath cleaner called Excaliber or I've heard Ivory dishsoap is good too. Back before I knew of Excaliber, I would douse the area with baby oil to soften everything up. Our paint gelding is very flinchy and sensitive and has kicked at me but as long as one of my kids is feeding him something yummy, he's much better and luckily he doesn't get too bad anyways. My POA really produces a lot of gunk and so does my draft colt. Poor guys. Your guy really needs to get cleaned. There is a relationship between a dirty sheath and developing squamous cell carcinoma in the sheath area. Just spent a lot of $ getting a tumor removed from my POA's boy parts-I've owned him a year, so now I am making sure to clean him up every time he gets a bath!

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post #5 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 01:50 PM
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Well, it' loooks nasty, but it's just a lot of dry skin. Is he old? That looks like an older horse, the fuzzy belly, the dry skin...the old guys are just a little more gross anyways for some reason. LOL

I'd have the vet check him this time since he's not appreciative of any attmepts to clean it, and the vet can be sure to get any beans taken care of. Then, from there, I wouldn't wash it much. I'm not one to really wash my boys. I casually to a really quick check for beans when I'm grooming and they are "relaxed". I might pick off the obvious flakes of skin, but washing a dry weenie will only dry it more. The bean is the main thing or if he was greasy, but that doesn't look greasy at all. That's just me. I just don't wash weenies, just pick the beanies. LOL That is suffcient and my boys have always gotten used to the idea a lot quicker and cooperated. I just check once a month or so, any beans are still tiny, so the weenie isn't sore. And I am a gelding person, I've always had more boys than girls, and with regular bean picking and no washing besides a hose for the greasy boys, none have developed any infections.
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post #6 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 01:53 PM
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if it hasn't been cleaned in ages...I'd call a vet. The vet can do a complete check for any beans, tumors, or anything while the horse is completely sedated.
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post #7 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 11:09 PM
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If he wont let you get near it I would call out the vet and he can tranquilize it.. Its pretty dirty.

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post #8 of 18 Old 07-23-2008, 11:12 PM
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I'd call the vet, just to be safe.

I'll be doing that oh so fun job here this Saturday. Dukey looks kinda like that, and the poor guy has a family of gnats living in there.... Lucky for me, he doesn't mind it and will even let me stick a hose up there :)
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post #9 of 18 Old 07-25-2008, 06:57 AM
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Not a nice job at all...Here is a little something that I posted on another forum to make it a little.....less stressfull, if nothing else.
Stick my hand up where!? One of the joys of owning a gelding is periodic sheath cleaning. This is a mysterious topic to some, so Pat Harris wrote these instructions which she posted on Equine-L.
Step 1) Check to make sure there are no prospective boyfriends, elderly neighbors, or Brownie troops with a line of sight to the proceedings. Though of course they're probably going to show up unexpectedly ANYWAY once you're in the middle of things. Prepare a good explanation <vbg>
2) Trim your fingernails short. Assemble horse, hose, and your sense of humor (plus, ideally, Excalibur cleanser and perhaps thin rubber gloves).
3) Use hose (or damp sponge) to get the sheath and its inhabitant wet. Uh, that is, do this in a *civilized* fashion with due warning to the horse; he is apt to take offense if an icy-cold hose blasts unexpectedly into his personal regions
4) Now introduce your horse to Mr Hand <g>. What I find safest is to stand facing the horse's head, with my shoulder and hip snugly against the horse's thigh and hip so that if he makes any suspicious move such as raising his leg, I can feel it right away and am in any case pressed so close that all he can do is shove, not really kick. The horse should be held by an assistant or by your free hand, NOT tied fast to a post or to crossties. He may shift around a good bit if he's not happy with Mr Hand's antics, but don't be put off by that; as long as you are patient and gradual, and stick close to his side, he'll get over it.
Remember that it would be most unladylike of you to simply make a direct grab for your horse's Part. Give the horse a clue about what's on the program. Rest your hand against his belly, and then slide it back til you are entering The Home of the Actual Private Part. When you reach this first region of your destination, lube him up good with Excalibur or whatever you're using.
5) If the outer part of his sheath is really grungy you will feel little clods and nubblies of smegma peeling off as you grope around in there. Patiently and gently expedite their removal.
5) Thus far, you have probably only been in the outer part of the sheath. The Part Itself, you'll have noticed, is strangely absent. That's because it has retired shyly to its inner chambers. Roll up them thar sleeves and follow in after it
6) As you and Mr Hand wend your way deeper into the sheath, you will encounter what feels like a small portal that opens up into a chamber beyond. Being attentive to your horse's reaction, invite yourself in <vbg>. You are now in the inner sanctum of The Actual Private Part. It's hiding in there towards the back, trying to pretend it isn't there. Say hi and wave to it <vbg>. No, really, work your finger back and forth around the sides of it. If the horse won't drop, this is your only shot at removing whatever dried smegma is clinging to the surface of the Part itself. So, gently explore around it, pulling out whatever crusty topsoil you find there. Use more water and more Excalibur if necessary to loosen attached gunk.
7) When Mr Hand and the Actual Private Part have gotten to know each other pretty well, and the Part feels squeaky clean all around, there remains only one task: checking for, and removing, the bean. The bean is a pale, kidney-shaped accumulation of smegma in a small pouch just inside the urethra. Not all horses accumulate a bean, but IME the majority do, even if they have no visible external smegma.
So: the equine urethra is fairly large diameter, and indeed will permit you to very gently insinuate one of your slimmer fingers inside the urethral opening. Do so, and explore upwards for what will feel like a lump or "pea" buried no more than, I dunno, perhaps 3/4" in from the opening. If you do encounter a bean, gently and sympathetically persuade it out with your finger. This may require a little patience from BOTH Mr Hand AND the horse, but the horse will be happier and healthier once it's accomplished. In the rare event that the bean is too enormous for your finger to coax out, you might try what I did (in desperation) last month on the orange horse: Wrap thumb and index finger around the end of the Part and squeeze firmly to extrude the bean. Much to my surprise it worked and orange horse did NOT kill me for doing it and he does not seem to have suffered any permanant damage as a result ;-> I have never in my life seen another bean that enormous, though.
8) Now all that's left to do is make a graceful exit and rinse the area very thoroughly in apology for the liberties you've taken <vbg>. A hose will be MUCH easier to use here than just a sponge and bucket, IME. Make sure to direct the water into the Part's inner retreat too, not merely the outer part of the sheath. This may require you to enfold the end of the hose in your hand and guide it up there personally.
9) Ta-da, you are done! Say, "Good horsie" and feed him lots of carrots. Watch him make funny faces at the way your hands smell. Hmm. Well, perhaps there is ONE more step...
10) The only thing I know of that is at all effective in removing the lovely fragrance of smegma from your hands (fingernails arms elbows and wherever else it's gotten) is Excalibur. Even then, if you didn't use gloves you may find you've got an unusual personal perfume for a while. So, word to the wise, do NOT clean your horse's sheath just before an important job interview or first date
and of course, there is that one FINAL step...
11) Figure out how to explain all this to your mother (or the kid from next door, or the meter reader, or whoever else you've just realized has been standing in the barn doorway speechlessly watching the entire process. <vbg>)
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post #10 of 18 Old 07-25-2008, 03:32 PM
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What Dangergurly, you posted the directions but not the songs?

FTR, the vet that came out and did Rum's teeth last week said she uses liguid Ivory soap, it sticks on and is very gentle. She has never had a horse have a reaction to it but has had a problem with Excalibur. I'd get the vet out to do it this time, and then get him used to you being around "there" by rinsing it off when he gets relaxed and drops. You can put baby oil on it to help get the dry stuff softened up. Eventually he should let you do it.

And you MUST sing these songs while sheath cleaning, it is the unspoken code amongst owners of geldings:
Ready? Everybody now!

Let's all sing along, to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it"........

If it's hanging and you see it lube your hands
If it's hanging and you see it lube your hands
If it's hanging and you see it
Grab it quick its time to clean it
If it's hanging and you see it lube your hands.

If it's peely and its crusty pick it off
If it's peely and its crusty pick it off
If it's peely and its crusty
and the smell is kind of musty
If it's peely and its crusy pick it off

If his weenie has a beanie dig it out
If his weeny has a beanie dig it out
If his weiner has a beaner
pull it out and he'll be cleaner
If his weenie has a beanie dig it out.

Now he's happy and you know it wash your hands
Now he's happy and you know it wash your hands
It's a job that's kind of kinky
And now your hands are really stinky
But he's happy and you know it wash your hands

The Sheath Cleaning Song
Author Unknown

Sing it to the tune of "Hello Mother, Hello Father" from camp song

How's it hangin'?
So much cleaner.
Aren't you glad I
washed your wiener?

I'll admit it's
kinda creepy
that I had to stick my arm up in your pee-pee.

It was sticky.
It was gunky.
It felt icky.
It smelled funky.

It was cruddy,
it was crusty--
when you stuck it out, it creaked like it was rusty.

After half an
hour of toilin'
and of squirtin'
baby oil in,
you're as fresh there
as a daisy.

Either this means I love you or else I'm crazy!!!

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