Colt wont gain weight!! - The Horse Forum
 23Likes
  • 6 Post By Trinity3205
  • 2 Post By Trinity3205
  • 7 Post By Dehda01
  • 5 Post By Smilie
  • 1 Post By bellagris
  • 2 Post By Smilie
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Nashville TN
Posts: 3
• Horses: 0
Colt wont gain weight!!

I have a 10 month old colt. He was 9 months when winter hit in Indiana and he immediately dropped weight. He is skin and bones. It's been a month now and he is still not gaining weight!! I have had the vet out who has ran blood tests and my baby is fine no worms. not ulcers. Nothing. Just malnourished is what my vet said. My colt is on 24/7 round bales Grass/Alfalfa. He is also being fed Renew gold with Dac oil and Dac bloom. No matter what I do he will not gain. And I'm afraid its stunted his growth!
I just moved to Tennessee. My horses are at a family members in Indiana still though. Here in TN its sunny and warm. And there's green grass!! No snow. I will be moving my horses here in 1 week. So im hoping the grass may help him??? Someone please help I just want him to look like the gorgeous big bodied colt we had before winter came!
DustyLanesAngel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 04:45 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sevierville, TN
Posts: 1,775
• Horses: 4
Have you treated for ulcers preemptively? Also, if you are not with them, I never believe they are being fed like you would feed them or in the amounts you would feed them. And if you ran a fecal, you should do it again and be sure to treat for worms that dont show on fecs like tapes and encysted strongyles. They can still have worms that are not laying eggs also. Id give a power pack myself.

Otherwise, Is he alone? Is he stressed in any way? is a pasture buddy picking on him? Does he have shelter and is he blanketed when its bad out? Do you know how much he is really eating since he is on a roll?

Id just address it when he gets to you where you can see him in person since its just a week away. Hard to fix when you are not the one with eyes on them every second.

Oh and one more thing, I think your baby may need a different feed for awhile. Renew Gold is more like a supplement than a feed. You arent supposed to feed more than a half a lb a day. This baby is proving he needs more. I dont know that id feed it exclusively to a growing baby even with the DAC. Id go for something formulated more for growing babies.

Married to my One! 10-11-13 Steampunk style:)

Last edited by Trinity3205; 03-03-2017 at 04:50 PM.
Trinity3205 is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 05:14 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sevierville, TN
Posts: 1,775
• Horses: 4
This is closer to what id be feeding a weanling about that age along with your alfalfa mix free choice. 6 to 8 lbs a day split up https://www.triplecrownfeed.com/products/growth/
Captain Evil and sarahfromsc like this.

Married to my One! 10-11-13 Steampunk style:)
Trinity3205 is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 09:01 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 1,483
• Horses: 0
Renew gold is a fat supplement. It is not meant to be fed as a feed. Some people are able to feed alfalfa and a vitamin mineral supplement to balance the phosphorus/calcium ratio- but that is not typical around the country.

The DAC supplements are ALSO fat supplements ALSO.

SO... I bet he desperately needs some feed for some protein and vitamins and mineral balance!!!

I would discuss his needs with a good vet. I would bet a fecal exam and then a good SAFE deworming protocol is probably in order and a quality growth grain( I personally adore triple crown growth) or AT MINIMUM.... adding a quality ration balancer.

Fat supplements are fantastic. But proteins and a balanced vitamin and mineral package HAVE come first.
Dehda01 is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 10:45 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Olds Alberta Canada
Posts: 8,492
• Horses: 0
Don't blame winter.
I live in Alberta, where winters are extreme, and weaned many foAL crops over the years, and none became thin or unthrifty
Either the nutritional needs of this young horse are not being met, or he has some Medical condition, including parasite burden
First, do you have any idea of the protein and energy levels in those round bales?
Just because those bales are touted as being grass , alfalfa mix, does not guarantee anything. It could be very mature hay, mostly grass with some alfalfa
I fed our weanlings a 50/50 % alfalfa hay, cut in medium maturity .
Weanlings do not have the git size to process large amount of mature fiber,or not very nutritionally dense hay, to get the daily nutrition they need
Is he in with other weanlings, or a bunch of older horses?
Babies need to be fed separately from mature horses, esp during that first winter. If hay alone does not meet their caloric and protein needs, you can feed a mixture of soaked beet pulp and oats. My babies got that twice a day.They also had free choice minerals and salt
Weanings need that 14 % protein, as it is the building blocks, and enough energy (calories ) to keep good weight
Smilie is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 03-03-2017, 11:20 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alberta Canada
Posts: 609
• Horses: 0
I feed my Colts a mixture of beet pulp, Caf manna and mineral. Or instead of Caf manna I do Step for broodmares, and yearlings.

Be sure to introduce him to fresh grass slowly -if he is malnourished it will be hard in him to go to fresh!
Captain Evil likes this.
bellagris is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 03-04-2017, 01:28 AM
Foal
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2
• Horses: 0
Arrow

Only a cell analysis will get to the actual cause of the deficiency.

Last edited by tinyliny; 03-07-2017 at 03:50 PM.
EquineTreatments is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 03-04-2017, 11:56 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Olds Alberta Canada
Posts: 8,492
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by EquineTreatments View Post
Only a cell analysis will get to the actual cause of the deficiency. You can get those here.
This is a weanling, and as a lab tech, I can tell you that the place to start is to have that forage analyzed, and then balance that diet, by adding anything that is missing, or not met by the forage alone
If the diet is okay, then basic CBC and chemistry can be done
Smilie is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 03-06-2017, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Nashville TN
Posts: 3
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smilie View Post
Don't blame winter.
I live in Alberta, where winters are extreme, and weaned many foAL crops over the years, and none became thin or unthrifty
Either the nutritional needs of this young horse are not being met, or he has some Medical condition, including parasite burden
First, do you have any idea of the protein and energy levels in those round bales?
Just because those bales are touted as being grass , alfalfa mix, does not guarantee anything. It could be very mature hay, mostly grass with some alfalfa
I fed our weanlings a 50/50 % alfalfa hay, cut in medium maturity .
Weanlings do not have the git size to process large amount of mature fiber,or not very nutritionally dense hay, to get the daily nutrition they need
Is he in with other weanlings, or a bunch of older horses?
Babies need to be fed separately from mature horses, esp during that first winter. If hay alone does not meet their caloric and protein needs, you can feed a mixture of soaked beet pulp and oats. My babies got that twice a day.They also had free choice minerals and salt
Weanings need that 14 % protein, as it is the building blocks, and enough energy (calories ) to keep good weight
Not necessarily blaming it on winter it just happened as soon as winter hit and we didnt change anything about the way we fed it or amount...
We got him when he was 6 Months old but the breeder we got him from Weaned him at 4 months. So hes in with our older horses.
I have had the vet out who did a blood and fecal test for worms and said he didnt have any. As that was my first thought because he has a big belly.
We are doing a powerpac on him now though anyway.

Thank you so much for all the info. This little guy is our world I just want him to get better so any advice and info are greatly appreciated!
DustyLanesAngel is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 03-06-2017, 11:33 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Olds Alberta Canada
Posts: 8,492
• Horses: 0
He can't compete with older horses for feed, nor should he be fed the same.
Winter will demand more calories to maintain heat, but other then that, does not affect condition or weight
I have weaned foals anywhere from 3 months to 9 months of age, but they all spend that first winter fed separately from the main herd
If possible, have whim with another weanling, and feed then like young growing horses
Near the end of our breeding actively< i decided to breed my old reining mare once more, at age 23. I thus had a single foal that winter, so I bought another weanling out of a production sale
My friend used to breed to our stallion, thus had a loan weanling to wean. She did not put that weanling in with the rest of her horses, but boarded that weanling with mine for the winter
Hay might be out there , in a round bale, but if that weanling gets pushed off of it by the older horses, doesn't help
Is he taken out at least twice a day and fed some concentrate,suitable for a young growing horse? That at least would need to be done, versus just having him out with mature or older horses
gottatrot and mred like this.
Smilie is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Weight Gain / Muscle gain for slaughter horse tinacleg Horse Health 5 07-20-2016 11:43 AM
Alfalfa cubes vs Tribute K finish for weight gain and maintaining weight Lovemystandardbred Horse Health 1 07-16-2015 08:05 AM
weight gain on a 2yr old cob colt MattJohnston Horse Health 1 04-24-2012 09:00 AM
Rescue horse just wont gain weight.. Chess46 Horse Health 26 07-22-2010 10:31 PM
My Horses Wont Gain Weight Erin_And_Jasper Horse Health 39 09-30-2008 03:43 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome