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post #1 of 10 Old 01-26-2011, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Conditioning and building topline

So I'm looking for some more advice, I put an ad up about a month ago looking for help with nutrition and gaining weight, and my boy looks much better than before thanks to your help. No more ribs showing!!

Now I'm looking for some help on lifting his back or adding muscle to it - if possible.

This is the then and now pics, just because I'm so proud of how he's changed.

The pic on the left is of him February 4th of 2010, the pic on the right is of him on January 23 2011

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But his back is still kinda swayed... anyone know any good tips for bringing it up... keep in mind I ride western so I'd like to stay away from excessive head gear if possible.



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post #2 of 10 Old 01-26-2011, 12:42 PM
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What are you currently trying?
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I've been doing mostly trail riding with him, one of the girls at my barn told me to try working him in circles, and while that seemed to begin building some muscles, he's still got a bit of a sway to his back.

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post #4 of 10 Old 01-26-2011, 03:57 PM
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lots and lots of slow work on hills making him use his hiney

Also what diet did you decide on??

Adding a amino acid supplement IF you cna get one will help tons with that

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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It was a bit of a mixture of everything, and a lot depended on who was doing the feeding that day, but for the most part over the last few months he became better at wedging himself into the haybale at feeding time - so he had hay open to him 24/7.

Then he was getting grained once a day a mixture of sweet feed, and high fibre grains, with about 2 tablespoons of multivitamins mixed in. And on days when I was doing the feeding (about every third day) I'd give him about a cup of oats with that.

And because it was really cold for the last month we did barely any riding so he got the chance to really gain the weight.

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OK, so feed is inconsistent at best

Ditch the sweet feed I am sure we told you that last time

Be sure you are giving the correct about of multi vitamins

I like to do backing up slight inclines as well...backing forces them to round up and support their back when done properly

And hill or incline work you should feel his back rise into you almost like he is rounding up to buck

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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LONG AND LOW WORK! It works wonders! I do a lot of Long And Low with my TB gelding whom has been notorious for having a horrible topline.

When you are doing the long and low, ensure that your boy is engaged from behind, tracking up, while you are asking him to lift his spine up into your seat.

Also doing "Carrot Stretches" while on the ground.

Maybe this video will help you out with the stretches. She shows 2 stretches that are great to help the topline - the tummy tucks and the butt tucks.


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I've been doing mostly trail riding with him, one of the girls at my barn told me to try working him in circles, and while that seemed to begin building some muscles, he's still got a bit of a sway to his back.
Part of the issue is his withers. They are pronounced and will always have the sharp drop. However I have seen much worse.

To build topline, you need to build the abs. The weight of the belly pulls on the top line. Trot poles, caveletti and hill work.
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Part of the issue is his withers. They are pronounced and will always have the sharp drop. However I have seen much worse.

To build topline, you need to build the abs. The weight of the belly pulls on the top line. Trot poles, caveletti and hill work.

Great advice

This horse has high withers and is always going to have a "little" bit of a sway that's his bone structure, you can't change that.
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You know I have noticed that the carrot stretches are helping. I'm not seeing it so much as feeling it when I ride. He's got more control over his movements than before, and when he trots he's got a lot more impulsion in his hind end than before. He's also a lot comfier to ride bareback lol.

I know he'll never have a perfectly flat topline, but he does slowly seem to be improving... and it seems to be directly linked to the more in shape (overall) that he becomes.

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Oh and the sweetfeed is officially pulled from the diet. Lol.

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