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  • Does farrier's formula double strength make horses hot
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    08-24-2010, 09:05 PM
  #11
Foal
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
Next, I'd evaluate her diet. What is she currently eating and how much? Hay? Turnout? Any supplements? Mineral block?
Right now she is on 24/7 turnout on grass, and I've currently started her on grain. Tomorrow I will start feeding her Farriers Double Strength Formula. I don't think that her pasture has a mineral block. I could put one in her stall though.

I know that she never was fed grain, supplements, or mineral blocks. I know that her previous owner didn't really ride her once she was trained and I'm guessing that she got her hooves trimmed once every 2 months? I think it needs to be sooner than 2 months, because her hooves seem to grow pretty fast. She has the same farrier the last year or so (before I got her) but I'm going to change farriers this week. I'm going out to see her tomorrow, and I'll post pictures of how her hooves are.

I really want to fix her hooves, she is such a sweet horse! I don't want her to be sore.
     
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    08-24-2010, 10:07 PM
  #12
Trained
"Yes" to all the comments on a better and more frequent trim, diet review to include supplements (biotin is very good for hooves) and "No" to paint on hoof creams/pastes/oils that are applied to the outer wall which is old growth and no longer can be "mended". The cracks will go away when the grow out, which will happen with good, regular trimming. You can't seal or moisturize a crack away or prevent it from increasing that way. Actually, some of these products can seal the hoof and cause further problems. However, there are creams that are applied to the coronary band only that may do some benefit, though I sometimes wonder how much is the cream and how much is the massaging of the band that helps. Either way, you may see benefits with that kind of product.

And yes, two months is a very long time to go between trims for most horses. Anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks is average, depending on the horse and terrain (paddock and riding).
     
    08-24-2010, 10:49 PM
  #13
Trained
Hi,

Agree mostly with what others have said. We need more pics to get much of an idea, but it's obvious the horse has been suffering ongoing lami for some time & the walls(esp evident inside quarter of white one) are disconnected from a long way up. The cracks are a symptom of this, as well as(based on this pic being taken just after a trim) poor trimming.

First & foremost, if she's been lame since she was shod, I'd get the shoes off her pronto - preferably last week. It is most likely farrier error that has caused it, so have a word to your farrier & ask him what he thinks may have caused it. Might be a genuine accident, such as a nail prick or some such, or it may be he's one of those who pares sole &/or frog or some such, in which case it's an error of method & I'd definitely look elsewhere.

Secondly, as others have said, good diet & nutrition are vital, and if this horse has been suffering lami on grass alone, I'd be restricting her grazing - muzzle her or keep her on a bare lot, eaten down area, 'paddock paradise' track, and feed her hay. I would also definitely avoid feeding grain, molasses or other sugary/starchy 'junk food'. Whether this 'farriers formula' stuff is right for her or not, she will also be lacking & imbalanced in a range of nutrients, so yes, a *good quality* complete supplement or grain-free 'ration balancer' will be good for her. They don't actually get much out of a mineral block(& they're often bound together with molasses, so bad news), and a good supp should give her what's required.

Thirdly, educate yourself as much as you can on the principles & factors which effect feet. Farriery is but one small part of it and most of the responsibility is down to you. But if you don't know what comprises a good trim, then you'll need to learn in order to gauge the proficiency or otherwise of your 'expert' of choice too. Hoofrehab.com barehoofcare.com & safergrass.org are some good resources to begin with.

I would not be getting this horse shod at least until her hooves have become healthy & strong. Or for that matter, at least until she is mature, so her feet have a chance to develop fully before they're restricted. I'm not against shoes in any situation, but I believe they are generally unhelpful at best when applied to sick feet. Hoof boots or such are generally better alternative when she requires extra protection for her feet.

I wouldn't bother paining anything onto her feet, as someone already mentioned, it's pretty much useless, except perhaps to make her feet look a bit nicer.
     
    08-25-2010, 08:19 AM
  #14
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by ImpressiveLady    
Tomorrow I will start feeding her Farriers Double Strength Formula. I don't think that her pasture has a mineral block. I could put one in her stall though.
I don't believe the horse really needs to be on grain but rather a top-notch vitamin/mineral supplement.

Also, I doubt anyone bothered to tell you the guaranteed analysis of the Farrier's Double Strength formula when they recommended it, so here's the link.

Farrier's Formula Double Strength Nutrition Information

Please note that it is 25% protein! Someone on another forum commented their horse became really hot when they started feeding this. They didn't look up the G/A either.

Feeding her grain, stalling her, adding something with 25% protein is not a good combo.

I get fantastic hoof and coat results just by feeding 1/2 cup daily of Omega-3 Horseshine and it's probably cheaper on the long term than Farrier's Formula. It takes longer to see results, I'm sure, but those hooves aren't going to grow completely out much faster than nine months anyway.

Lots of terrific advice regarding good diet, hoof care (and I sure do agree with loosie to keep her shoeless until she matures and therefore so do those hooves).
     
    08-25-2010, 01:12 PM
  #15
Green Broke
Barefoot, she should be trimmed every 4-6 weeks. With shoes, you generally need her trimmed and re-set or reshod every 5-6 weeks. 8 weeks is too long to wait between farrier visits.

A couple of my horses I trim every 3 weeks, but most are every 4 weeks. My two shod horses get done every 5 weeks during the spring/summer and every 6 weeks from late fall through winter (their feet slow down in growth).
     
    08-25-2010, 01:17 PM
  #16
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    

Please note that it is 25% protein! Someone on another forum commented their horse became really hot when they started feeding this. They didn't look up the G/A either.

Feeding her grain, stalling her, adding something with 25% protein is not a good combo.
It's 25% protein, but you're only feeding 1-2 oz a day. That's not enough protein to make any dietary difference. Also, protein does NOT cause a horse to be hyper. If a horse has an attitude change due to a supplement or feed, it's generally due to either excess sugar/starch/calories or a feed sensitivity. Some horses with sensitivities to Alfalfa or Soy can become "hot" when given feeds or supplements that contain those ingredients. I have a horse with a severe grain sensitivity who cannot have any feed or supplements that contain any amount of corn, oats, or barley. Even just a handful of plain oats in his food everyday makes him about to jump out of his skin, lol.

Protein does not cause a horse to be hyper. It's the calories, sugar/starch, or an allergy/sensitivity that causes a horse to become hyper or change their attitude.
     
    08-25-2010, 01:38 PM
  #17
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979    
If a horse has an attitude change due to a supplement or feed, it's generally due to either excess sugar/starch/calories or a feed sensitivity.
Yes. Think of it in relation to folks who can drink a soda or cup of coffee before bed without any problems sleeping. Just because one horse reacts to one thing, doesn't mean every horse will.

As far as external applications - our farrier said standing in mud when it's hot and dry out - it good. Adds some moisture the air and ground are sucking out.
     

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